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r' f VI. Thomay suggested they move on to discuss Rule II. In section 3, there is just a typo error. Section 3-A-1 reads "Deficient functional color perception related to the job description" when it should read "Must possess adequate functional color perception related to the job description". Section 3-A-2 reads "Deficiency in color perception of such nature as to prompt ..." when it should read "Must possess adequate color perception of such nature as to prompt..." In section 3-13, the vision standards, there is confusion as to where to get standards or information from. Mr. Farrell indicated that they should write to the Civil Service Commission of the State of Ohio and inquire what their guidelines are for this. Mr. Thomay commented that he would do that. Mr. Thomay suggested that in section 4, the Fire Chief brought up a question as to contact lenses popping out when pressure goggles are worn. Mr. Farrell replied that would fall under the same category because he was looking back through this again and he doesn't know if the board is equipped to answer that. They should have studies throughout this country as to whether these fire fighters are losing their contacts and unable to perform. Mr. Thomay indicated that the medical qualifications are out of date because procedures for eye corrections and so fourth have become more technologically advanced. Section 7, there is a maximum age limit of 35 years old. Mr. Farrell believes Cleveland has done away with the 35 -year-old restriction. He then indicated that he would check into B and C of section 7. Mr. Thomay suggested that part D in Section 7 is the part they changed to accommodate the Firefighters who were still in school getting paramedic certification. Mr. Farrell questioned why this upsets them. They have guys on this list who may not have completed their paramedic classes, so they just get overlooked but our list is always going to be up to date in a year or two. Mr. Thomay indicated the advantage is when a year from now, when others are running out of candidates on their lists, we will have some that are going to be ready to go. He then questioned the clerk 'as to how many students are in the top ten candidates. The clerk was not sure off hand, but thought about half were still students. Mr. Farrell commented our list would be fresher than other city's lists. Mr. Thomay indicated they should put this section on hold until another meeting. He then indicated that Section 8 and 9 were O.K. Section 10, the question is whether this one meets our new software program. This will need to be changed because the computer test is not a written test. Mr. Farrell agreed. Mr. Thomay indicated that he would work on re -wording that. He then suggested that Sections 11 and 12 were O.K. Mr. Farrell questioned if they could table Rule III until the next meeting. Mr. Thomay replied yes. R"Pfol8J;401yjIa09 J. Thomay motioned to adjourn the meeting. The motion was seconded by P. Farrell and unanimously approved. Meeting adjourned at 8:25pm. JoKnn Thomay, Chairman 3 Shaun Solomon, Asst. Civil Service Secretary