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I <br />handled directly through the department. Mr. Thomay responded that it has generally been handled <br />through our two chiefs. He asked how PRADCO determines a profile. He wondered if they talk with <br />the chief in a city to come up with a profile. Mr. Kapusinski replied they have done that in a number <br />of ways. One way is to develop a model based upon the competency index which gives them base line <br />information against which to compare people. They then interview candidates and give them <br />additional testing which consists of critical thinking, and verbal skill. The interview is 1/2 hour long <br />and allows them to get a more personal view of the individual. They do their evaluation on that basis. <br />They like to use any information that the chiefs share in terms of job description, etc. In some <br />communities they have done job analyses to find out exactly what the job entails and what they are <br />looking for. In other communities, they have used the model and did that primarily with a screening <br />instrument called the Competency Index. Mr. Thomay inquired as to whether they conduct lie detector <br />tests. Mr. Kapusinski indicated they do not. He said in some communities that is done prior to coming <br />in for -the psychological exam. Mr. Thomay pointed out North Olmsted has one officer that is qualified <br />to administer a lie detector test. Mr. Kapusinski said North Olmsted is ahead of most communities in <br />that regard. Mr. Thomay asked about pricing. Mr. Kapusinski indicated they charge $500 per <br />assessment, which includes any pre -work involving discussions with a chief or any meetings. If they <br />develep a model, or job analysis, there is an additional charge. Mr. Thomay mentioned North Olmsted <br />also deals with a building inspector test, and secretarial testing. Mr. Kapusinski said they have. <br />services that are appropriate for people at that level who don't have the kind of responsibility that <br />police and fire have. They would do a screening that could be done entirely through the mail or over <br />the internet. That testing could be about a hundred to a few hundred dollars cheaper. All of their <br />service's are available over the internet. Most police and fire departments have not used that because <br />they believe it might be discriminatory against people who do not have access to a computer. Mr. <br />Kapusinski passed out a copy of the Personal Profile, which gives them biographical information. It is <br />filled out in advance of coming in to their office. There is a Personality .Index at the end of that form <br />that gives them additional information. Mr. Carobine said a candidate can put as much time as they <br />like into completing the form ahead of time, and they learn a bit about them by how well they complete <br />this work sample. The work can be completed on the internet or it can be brought in when a candidate <br />comes in for additional testing and an interview. Mr. Kapusinski said the additional testing is for their <br />benefit as well. He mentioned the critical thinking test and verbal reasoning test, which gives them a <br />better idea of a person's abilities. He pointed out a person may be a good book learner but not have <br />some of the practical, common sense skills that you would want an individual to have in a police or fire <br />position. He handed out a copy of the Competency Index. Mrs. Giesser asked if they grade the <br />material in terms of the job a person is seeking or if they use it as background information to pursue <br />the further steps they take. Mr. Kapusinski said they use it to get a good sense of a person's qualities <br />by the answers they give. Mr. Carobine pointed out there are no right or wrong answers on any of the <br />tests. They are just learning how a person thinks and behaves. It is very behaviorally oriented in terms <br />of the questions asked. When they see a theme from the Personality Index and comments in the <br />profile:, they can gain confidence that a person will behave in a certain way and draw conclusions about <br />that. Mr. Thomay asked if they receive a file from the city to give them background information. Mr. <br />Kapusinski indicated they start from scratch and go with the material they provide to a candidate <br />before conducting an interview. Mr. Thomay inquired about where most of their work comes from. <br />Mr. Kapusinski replied that most of their work is from the east side. Strongsville is probably the <br />closest; community, although they have done some work in North Royalton as well. They have done <br />extensive work in Mentor. Mrs. Giesser asked for clarification on the process of completing the forms. <br />Mr. Kapusinski said the Competency Index is typically done in advance of coming in to their office. It <br />can be used by itself as a pre-screening device. He referred to the packet he handed out and the graph <br />it contains. The graph shows a model that.is determined by a sample of the most effective people in <br />the department, compared against the least effective people, to find out what dimensions separate the <br />good people from the least effective ones. They develop a model which shows statistically determined <br />ranges and dimensions that differentiate your strongest people. Mr. Carobine pointed out this can be <br />used as a pre-screen and the cost of that test is $50 per person if it is used in that manner. 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