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decided that list of criteria is not necessary to the handbook. It was decided that Mrs. Kilbane will send <br />an inquiry to the police chief and fire chief to ask how often evaluations are completed and to find out <br />the rating system that is used. When the responses are received, the secretary will then draft a revision <br />for the handbook. The board members went back to discussing seniority and efficiency points. Mr. <br />Ubaldi said they need to go back to Section 8c and it shall read, "Time considered for seniority credit <br />shall begin on the date of hire to the respective department for which the promotional examination is <br />being held, and end on the date of the examination." Mrs. Giesser asked Mrs. Kilbane to send a note to <br />the Police and Fire Chiefs as soon as possible and then put together a draft of the rule changes made <br />tonight. Mrs. Giesser asked that they address Rule IV, Section 2 at the next meeting. Mrs. Giesser said <br />her recommendation is they have the promotion rules all set so if they are suddenly informed they need <br />to promote, they do not have to re -address the rules. The protest period needs to be looked at (Rule IV <br />Section 2) in relation to O.R.C. 124.45. Mr. Ubaldi said they can finish up with Rule III, then move on <br />to Rule IV and Rule IX at the next meeting. <br />➢ Discuss and determine the job classification of the Clerk of Commissions and Assistant Clerk of <br />Commissions as unclassified or classified <br />Mrs. Giesser pointed out the board members received a memo from Kimberly Wenger, the Director of <br />Planning, and Cheryl Farver, the Director of Personnel & Administrative Services at the start of the <br />meeting. She asked Mrs. Farver if she and Ms. Wenger are both saying the positions should be <br />classified. Mrs. Farver indicated she would agree with that and a question remains as to whether the <br />positions are classified/competitive, or classified/non-competitive. Mr. Ubaldi asked if either of the <br />directors have an opinion on whether they are competitive positions. Mrs. Farver said Ms. Wenger is <br />asking for a recommendation from the Commission. She said her concern is that the process be <br />respected and followed when anyone gets a job with the City. It has been tested in the past and should <br />be tested in the future. That determination rests with the Commission. She added that her role was to <br />provide input as to whether the position is classified or not. Mr. Ubaldi said from what he read in <br />previous minutes, non-competitive is almost a "one-off', almost like an exception category. Mr. <br />O'Malley said that wherever practical, classified positions should be competitive. He added that when <br />non-competitive positions are mentioned, it is the exception; it is the temporary or provisional <br />appointment. Mrs. Giesser asked if there is a test out there that would be appropriate for the position. <br />Mrs. Farver replied there is a provision in the collective bargaining agreement for the Clerical/Technical <br />unit that provides a test for Secretary II's. They are tested to advance to Secretary I in terms of <br />compensation but not in terms of a job change. They just get more money if they pass the test. The <br />OPAC program tests those individuals and it is designed for testing computer skills, editing, and <br />spelling, etc. Mrs. Rote asked if it is a testable position and she has held the position for eight years, <br />would she be held to take the test to keep her job. Mr. Ubaldi indicated his understanding of the rules is <br />that she would only have to face a competitive exam if she were a provisional hire. There was a brief <br />discussion about Rule II, Section 10 relating to an entry level clerical examination. The discussion <br />continued about how secretarial tests had been administered and how and when it could be done in the <br />future. Eligible lists and scoring of clerical tests was also part of the discussion. Mrs. Rote provided <br />some background on previous secretarial tests, and provisional hires, and described her job duties. Mr. <br />O'Malley said the positions have to be looked at to see if they would fall under entry level clerical, <br />Section 10, or if there will be some subsection that will address those positions differently. They need to <br />find a place for it to fit into the rules. He said the Commission should be establishing the criteria and <br />administering these examinations. It should be done through the Civil Service. Mr. Ubaldi said he is <br />comfortable in deciding the positions are classified/competitive. There was further discussion about the <br />differences between a Secretary I, Secretary II, and the position of clerk. Mr. O'Malley said there is <br />more to learn about the positions in order to establish the requirements for the job. Mrs. Farver <br />indicated she has a job description that was provided by Mrs. Rote and it may help the Commission in <br />its determination. Mrs. Giesser reviewed the description and asked if there is something that details the <br />Secretary I and Secretary II positions. Mrs. Farver replied the descriptions can be found in the collective <br />
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