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? y <br />CITY OF NORTH OLMSTID <br />ARCfIITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD <br />MINUTES-APRIL 21, 1993 <br />AMMID <br />I. ROLL CALL: <br />Chairman Zergott ca.lled the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. <br />Present: S. Ferencik, T. Gallagher, and B. Zergott. <br />Mr. Sohri arrived later. <br />II. REVIEW AND CORRECTION OF MINUTES: <br />Deferred until later in the meeting. <br />III. SIGNS: <br />1) Michael's Flowers (Formerly Office Warehouse), Ol.msted Plaza, Great Northern Blvd. <br />Wall sign. <br />Mr. Ruff, sign contractor, presented a colored rendering of the sign to be placed <br />on the mansard. The sign is typical of their other signs and states the products <br />and services tha.t Michael's offers.. Building Commissioner Conway advised that the <br />sign did not conform to the code and that renovation to the building was approved <br />as a minor change with the stipulation that the stone an the btiilding be removed <br />and that this.sign come before the board, mainly because of the extensive use of <br />identifying products and services wlv.ch is not permitted imder the code. Also the <br />' zoning code limits wall signs to 75 square feet, and although the rendering has no <br />dimensions on it, it appears to be in excess of that. He believed that there is <br />some merit in allowing a larger sign because the building is so far off of the <br />street, but if the sign is approved with all these products listed, it might set a <br />precedent for other such signs. Mr. Ruff believed that the name "Michael's" was <br />over the 75 square feet and noted that the letters are 7 feet high, and also that <br />the word "crafts" would be the most important. Mr. Zergott would prefer that it <br />conform to size limitations, but if the sign just says "Michael's Crafts" either <br />with both words on one line or "Craft's" centered below it in smaller script <br />lettering, the sign would be acceptable. The members agreed that there were too <br />r,my graphics on one sign. Mr. Sohn believed that the size of the letters is too <br />large for the size of the mansard. The members thought that the size should <br />conform to the other signs in the center. Mr. Gallagher suggested that perhaps the <br />letters could be the same size as Rini's sign which is next door. Mr. Ruff stated <br />that Rini's sign is a box letter and on a higher mansard. T. Gallagher moved that <br />the Michael's sign be approved but that the side lettering not be added to it and <br />that "Michael's Crafts" would be acceptable in the script lettering as submitted <br />with the recommendation that they attempt to conform to the code as much as <br />possible, but if a variance is needed they can proceed to tha.t Board, seconded by <br />Y. Sohn, and unanimously approved. <br />At this point Mr. Conway presented pietures of signs recently installed. He asked <br />that the board give him some direction as to what elements in a sign would be <br />objectionable and should be referred to the board without having to direct all <br />signs to the board. The Building Department must issue a permit for any sign that <br />conforms to the code, but would like some criteria for styles that the board would <br />prefer. Mr. Zergott stated that he objected to signs mounted on 4 by 4 inch posts, <br />but an 8 by 8 post with routed edges might be acceptableo Mr. Sohn does not like <br />the very narrow frame on the Velvet Touch sign, a wider one would be more in <br />proportion. 'Ilhe members discussed several elements on signs which the board would <br />like to review. Mr. Sohn stated that a sign Must be reviewed as it relates to the <br />1