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CITY OF NORTH OLMSTED "TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!" CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES — OCTOBER 22, 2003 COUNCIL'S CAUCUS ROOM 8:30 A.M. ROLL CALL: 8:40 a.m. Chairman Thomay called the meeting to order at 8:40 a.m. PRESENT: Chairman J. Thomay, Commission members R. Giesser and M. Ubaldi ALSO PRESENT: Assistant Law Director Bryan O'Malley and Civil Service Secretary Donna Rote. II. DISPOSITION OF MINUTES: III. CORRESPONDENCE: There were (2) pieces of correspondence received and (2) piece of correspondence sent out. John Thomay motion to approve the correspondences as submitted. R. Giesser seconded the motion, which was unanimously approved. IV. OLD BUSINESS: Commissioners need to make motions on administering a Building Inspectors exam: Mr. Thomay reviewed past Building Inspector test shows 20 applicants took the test and three out of the twenty failed the test. The questions posed to CPS testing company were answered and they have indicated that their tests are not state specific. He directed the clerk to contact the Ohio Building Inspector agency to seek help finding a testing company capable of administering a test. Other Civil Service offices should be contacted to find out what procedures they use for hiring Building Inspectors. Discussion regarding Classified & Unclassified positions: Ms. Giesser indicated that although it is not on the docket she would like to discuss the topic of classified and unclassified positions. She felt that the commission should have a workday meeting to meet with the head of personnel, and all department heads to discuss job descriptions. The commission would require job descriptions for each of the positions in the database before the meeting. Mr. Thomay advised the secretary to send each department head a copy of the list, which shows which positions within their department that will be reviewed so they know what to be prepared to answer questions on. Mr. O'Malley suggested that the commission address the two individual positions, which are, before the commission first then expand their review to the other positions. He felt it would be hard for the commission to try to address all positions in question at one time. He suggested that after resolving the Systems Supervisor & the Animal Wardens classification then address each department one at a time. Mr. Ubaldi suggested that he was amazed that it has gone on for so long without any classification. He questioned if that was not against State Law. Ms. Giesser voiced that she is concerned about addressing just the two in question first then moving on. She is concerned that decisions made on one department may have implications on other departments. She feels that the biggest decision is going to be defming who is unskilled labor. If the Commissioners could have some kind of definitions which exists for each position and then get our own idea of each of the positions it will make it easier to complete the task. Mr. O'Malley suggested that although local codes does not have a definition for Unskilled Labor. State Laws have definitions of Classified Classifications and Unclassified Classifications he believes under 124.01 or 124.03. In 124. 11, ORC has the term Unskilled Labor in a pool list, which is listed as Classified. The City of North Olmsted categorizes Unskilled Labor as Unclassified. He reviewed finding a case law, which involved a local city worker, which was resolved in court. Mr. Thomay requested Mr. O'Malley provide the commission with case law involving North Olmsted so they could be familiar with past situations which may have taken place. Ms. Giesser felt that scheduling the meetings with each department for half-hour intervals and just rescheduling departments if more time is needed for a particular department should work. They could still address the two in question first. Mr.