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r' CITY OF NORTH OLMSTED CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL'S CONFERENCE ROOM MINUTES - JULY 189 2005 7:00 P.M. I. ROLL CALL: Chairperson R. Giesser called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. PRESENT: R. Giesser, M. Ubaldi, and W. Hohmann ALSO PRESENT: Civil Service Secretary D. Eccleston Mrs. Giesser advised that Mr. Herbster, from the Waste Water Treatment Plant, is here at this meeting as a guest. Mr. Herbster is the Service Union President, AFSCME 2681, and is here to represent the three employees whose job classification will be determined by the Commission. Mrs. Giesser would like to address this before any other business is discussed to accommodate Mr. Herbster. Also present is Ms. Farver, Director of Personnel and Administrative Services. Mrs. Giesser indicated to Ms. Farver that the Charter tells the Commission to classify or un -classify all positions. Mr. Herbster indicated that they are under the Collective Bargaining Unit and the Union has some concerns if the three positions are reclassified to Civil Service, they may loose some rights under the Collective Bargaining Agreement. A general discussion followed concerning the following: all positions in a certain class should be classified the same, possible lost rights with the Union if reclassified with Civil Service, Union or Civil Service prevailing over one another, any changes in requirements and/or testing if the Commission changes a classification, EPA license, and license versus unlicensed. Mr. Hohmann asked if the job duties are different between Class A, B and C. Ms. Farver indicated that Class A, Band C have different job descriptions. Mr. Ubaldi indicated that the legal description for an unskilled laborer is a job which requires no more than physical fitness and sound judgment. Tasks are learned while on the job rather than a specific task one has trained out side the occupation. Ms. Farver asked Mr. Herbster if a laborer C has to have a CDL license and Mr. Herbster advised "yes". At an entry level position, if you are hired and do not have a CDL you are considered a Laborer D and once you obtain a"CDL you are automatically a Laborer C. Mr. Hohmann questioned if a group is a member of a union, should the Commission make them unclassified. Ms. Farver indicated that is a legal question for Mr. Dubelko or Mr. O'Malley to answer. Mr. Herbster and Ms. Farver will discuss at the next labor management meeting, the different issues that have come up concerning classification. Ms. Farver asked the Commission if their task would be easier if she provided a list of positions only, along with their job descriptions from the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Mr. Ubaldi indicated the list would be very helpful. Mr. Hohmann asked Mr. Herbster what it takes to get an EPA license. Mr. Herbster advised that the EPA gives a test twice a year in Columbus. It is a combination of a Theory and Math test. To pass the test, you have to have at least 75%. The other qualification would be you have to work in the WWTP for 3 years in order to take the classification 1 test, 5 years in order to take the classification 2 test, 6 years in order to take the classification 3 test, and be a superintendent (someone who has the ability to run the plant for at least 1 year) in order to take the classification 4 test. Classification 4 is a license to run a treatment plant. Mr. Ubaldi wanted to know if there are any professional qualifications for an unlicensed operator. Mr. Herbster advised that they basically do the same thing as a license operator but they do not have the classification license. Mr. Ubaldi asked Mr. Herbster if the Operations Laborers, Greg Peters and Robert Jones, are unlicensed operators. Mr. Herbster advised "yes" but Greg Peters just obtained his classification 1 license and Robert Jones does not have enough time in yet.