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Council Minutes of 8/19/97 the trees that were upon that property, clearing a big void in the back. It took quite a „~ number of days to find out that this land was cleared in order to facilitate the city's right of entry into the property to clear the debris that was left in this alley way. His question is what debris back there belongs to the city and what belongs to the previous owner. Mayor Boyle said he believed it was pretty much inter-mixed. Mr. Bradford believes 99% belongs to the previous owner and only 1% belongs to the city. Mayor Boyle disagreed, and also said that it made more sense to truck the debris out through the alley way than across the golf course fairways. Mrs. Kasler said that it was her opinion and decision that the debris now belonged to the city and the city should clean it up. Mr. Bradford said that the city does not own that parcel, and Mrs. Kasler said that the city was cleaning it up because they had used the parcel for dumping. She and the Mayor agreed that it would be very difficult to separate the debris. Mr. Bradford was concerned that the residents of North Olmsted were paying to remove the debris. Mayor Boyle explained that Springvale is not run with taxpayer dollars--it is run off the revenues it receives through the golf course and the ballroom. As to the debris, at some point in time we were under the assumption that the dumpsite was our property and we dumped things there. We were wrong. Mr. DeLorenzo asked us to remove the debris. Since our debris was co-mingled with the other debris, it made more sense just to get it out than to try to sort through it. We are good neighbors. Again, the golf course is not operated by tax dollars. Operational monies, capital expenses and the notes are all paid for out of monies received from rounds of golf and rental of the ballroom. Cliff Crabs, 25575 Butternut Ridge Road, also spoke about the debris next to his property. He has lived there for 36 years and the trash pile has been there for 30 years. It is his belief that at least 90% of the debris is from the former owner of the golf course. Mr. Crabs understands that tax money is not being .used .for the cleanup but feels that public monies should not be used either. Regarding the matter of the lots that were split from the golf course, Mr. Crabs feels it was not done correctly. He did a tot split once and was told by the county that he had to consolidate it with another parcel otherwise it would be aland-locked parcel which is illegal. Mayor Boyle explained the history of the Springvale property: After the original owner, George Biddulph, passed away, there was a division of properties and a line was drawn. Apparently, that line ran through the area of the sandtrap. The city purchase of the property was to the line. The city did not go pass the line and then split the parcel. If that had been done, then the city would have gone through all the notifications. We are now examining whether or not that line is in the sandtrap or over further. We cannot make the assumption that the stakes are in the correct place. Mr. Crabs said that the parcel numbers are new because they are in a different series than all the other parcel numbers. He feels the parcels were created when the sale took place. Law Director Gareau said it was inappropriate to have this discussion because all of the records are in the Engineering Department. It was agreed that Mr. Bradford and Mr. Crabs would make an appointment with the Engineering Department to look at the records. On another matter, Mr. Crabs said a tree in the front of his property was rotten and a safety hazard and needed to be taken down. Mr. Bohlmann said he would take care of the matter. ,, 10 ~. _ .. i