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Council Minutes of 5/16/2000 <br />and that the responsible contracting piece comes next. She thanks Mr. Ross for <br />sharing those same concerns and hopes that when they come back to deal with the <br />responsible contracting piece, the ABC will be on their side. <br />Duke Benevento, 381 Darby's Run, Bay Village: <br />• Previously lived at 27845 Lorain Road. Graduate of North Olmsted High School, a <br />union built school that is still standing. Member of NECA, National Electrical <br />Contractors Association, and owner of Herbst Electrical. There are members here <br />tonight from NECA, from Cleveland Building Trades Association, the business <br />manager of Local 38 and a group of concerned residents. He wasn't going to speak <br />until Mr. Ross starting talking about the ABC apprenticeship program. One of his <br />duties as a member of NECA is to be a member of JATC, Joint Apprenticeship <br />Training Committee. They have about a two and a half million dollar project that is <br />paralleled by none in the State of Ohio. There are approximately 260 electrical <br />apprentices in the progam going to school days, journeymen are going nights. They <br />have a residential program, a teledata program. Apprentices graduate as a bona fide <br />wireman after five years of an apprenticeship with 8,000 hours of on-the job training. <br />He challenges Mr. Ross to get up and tell what his apprenticeship program is and if <br />his journeymen are even qualified to pass his second year apprentice tests. <br />Al Moore, 6154 Surrey Drive: <br />• Local 38 member and also a small contractor for 14 years. He usually employs <br />between 4 and 12 electricians. He wasn't going to speak until Alan Ross spoke. <br />What really "frosts" him about what Mr. Ross talked about was the word <br />"competitive." He puts in a lot of long, hard days and he bids almost exclusively <br />against non-union contractors (people that Alan Ross represents). He has never met <br />any non-union construction workers that have been through an apprenticeship <br />program. Most of the contractors on the jobs are usually non-unions because he has a <br />small shop. He has never met any of those people--they have usually learned the hard <br />way. He is fortunate, lives here in Bretton Ridge. Able to do that because he is a <br />Local 38 member and earns a decent wage and so do his employees. They've got a <br />pension, 401-K, hospitalization paid for. Mr. Ross can't say that for his "boys." He <br />doesn't have any trouble finding residential electricians to work for him--has more <br />applications than he can handle. They want the wage and the hospitalization--they <br />want to live the American dream. There is no secret to what Mr. Ross does--cutting <br />wages to turn aprofit--it has gone on since the beginning of times. Thanks for <br />Council's effort on this matter to create a level, fair playing field. They're <br />competitive--over 2,000 of them out there, Local 38 electricians working everyday. <br />Lots of them on overtime. This has gone on for a long, long time. If you want <br />quality, fairness, a responsible employer, this is the right way to go. <br />Edward Dietz, 5494 Porter Road: <br />• Resident for over 10 years, member of Local 120 for 45 years. The statement Mr. <br />Ross made that there have never been any complaints to OSHA about safety on jobs <br />or wages is wrong. He has talked to non-union people that have come from out of <br />state working for out of state general contractors and they said, if they bring any <br />13 <br />