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Council Minutes of 11/19/2002 week they were there performing work and on what specific projects--delineated between Springvale and city. if that was the agreement, we should be able to say that there was no city employee over there working on any other project other than one that related back to our city rather than just uniquely to Springvale. This should include lake irrigation, digging ditches, moving heaving equipment-all the things that the gentleman said they were doing. Mrs. Copfer said the Finance Department could not provide that information as payroll does not have a job costing system. They do not get that detailed information. Mr. Gareau said, as he understands it, the $540,000 could have been used to address the current shortfall for 2003 had it not been spent on the problem at Springvale. Mrs. Copfer answered yes on the investment earnings that Council chose to change the legislation to direct investment earnings in the Bond Retirement Fund to the General Fund. However, Springvale was already known not to be able to make their debt service. Mr. Gareau said it is frustrating that, but for the Springvale situation-weather problems, the scope, how and why the work was undertaken-the $540,000 could have been used to help address $2.5 million problem. Mr. Nashar said he would like to see the revenue from the time Springvale reopened-including clubhouse, golf course and ballroom. Mrs. Copfer said that information would be available on the green bar reports in the 650 fund, and October's figures will be out in the next few days. Mr. McKay said, when Mr. Bohlmann came to Council, he advised that he was going to use Service employees to repair the ditch at Springvale, and that was going to be the city's share of the storm water drainage. As far as he knows, that's what was done. The employees who worked at Springvale were supposed to be there on the storm water sewer project. Stefan Powell noted that Mr. Limpert had said Springvale was supposed to rent the equipment and the Service employees were going to operate it. If so, why did the city put the cart paths in? Mr. Limpert said, as he recalls it, Springvale was to provide the materials and the city was to provide the labor. The reason it was being justified was the city does collect an administration fee which most years was around sixty thousand dollars. In order to continue to get increased admin fees, we felt we had to invest a little in. Putting in the cart paths with city personnel was far less expensive than jobbing it out. He is sure employees do not want to see things outsourced--snow plowing, etc. Other projects will be done by employees-for example, the sidewalk project on Columbia and Bradley roads. There were two separate projects at 5pringvale-lowering the lake level for storm water management and constructing the cart paths. Mrs. Kasler asked who paid for the materials for the cart path. Mrs. Copfer said she believed Springvale paid, but will find out that answer. Mayor Musial said, if he remembers correctly, there was a presentation given to Council that the weather was a reason for Springvale's problems. It prohibited the course from being open on time. Information was given during a Finance Committee meeting. Also, he wants to bring to attention that one of the comments from the union was to lease Springvale to a private golf course company. That is being reviewed as an excellent suggestion. There is a provision whereby you can sell the golf course and lease it back and still own it after a period of time. This could also apply to the ballroom. Mr. Miller said his recollection was that last fall was the most mild fall and winter that we have had in years. That represents a loss of income--the course could have been open for 9 holes to get some revenue. He asked if the parking lot paving is ~""' complete, and the Mayor answered that the final coating has not been applied. ~~ 18 ~~ ,n~