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Council Minutes of 11/5/2003 ^ He wonders what Ordinance 2003-157 contains. He thinks several Council members have a vested irrterest in the school system, and he asked the Law Director if they aze eligible to vote on legislation. Law Director Dubelko said he doesn't know who Mr. Pangrac is referring to. Each Councilperson has an obligation to determine if they have a conflict, to bring it to his attetrtion and ask him for an opinion. He is willing to talk to residents on issues, but it is contrary to his obligation to attempt to give legal advice to residents. Mr. Pangrac said he wanted to see what each Councilperson's position is on that particular piece of legislation and have it stated it for public record. It was suggested that Mr. Pangrac attend the committee meetings on the legislation. The vote on the legislation will be on the public record. Patricia Deis, 26893 Sweetbriaz Drive. ^ Mrs. Deis noted it was interesting that Mr. Limpert felt it necessary to take a public forum this evening to happen to notice her in the audience as she spent several hours with him yesterday at the polls, allowing him ample time to explain his personal agenda. The election is over. Joseph Bowman, 23950 Lessner Road. ^ Thought he heazd the Mayor say the policy of installing storm sewers and covering culverts which used to be free is no longer. Mayor Musial answered that formerly, if a resident purchased the pipe, the city would install the pipe as time permitted. That is no longer done. Mr. Bowman said that the city had agreed to install the pipes for the residents of Lessner Road as had been done for W. 231 Street. The project was put off a number of times, but it is a matter of public record that the city agreed to do it. He was not aware the policy had been changed. Mr. Limpert, chairperson of the Streets & Drainage Committee, explained that since W. 231 Street was done, the federal government has installed new Phase II storm management requirements. One of which is requiring a major plan of the entire city-what we have, what we plan to do. They are encouraging open drainage and discouraging covered culverts along side of the road. The city has to put forwazd a comprehensive plan, so it makes sense to do a moratorium on this work until we have that plan together. This was not done by Council as legislation, it is an administrative policy. Mr. Bowman said he wondered when he and the residents of his street would get what was promised to them. His comments spazked a lengthy discussion with several Councilpersons agreeing that the Lessner Road residents have a legitimate complaint. Some Council members asked if the federal policy dictated that no culverting should be done at all while the comprehensive plan was being formulated. Councilman Miller specifically asked about culverting on south Canterbury Road. Mayor Musial said that in addition to the Clean Water Act, there is a question of surging taking place which may cause flooding in the basements. When you insert a one foot diameter pipe in a ditch that perhaps can handle a four foot diameter pipe, enclose it and contain the amount of water flowing out, you may have surging taking place. There's got to be some calculations to cover that aspect in addition to this other aspect. As to south Canterbury Road, there azen't plans to culvert right now but he thinks it would be a good idea. Almost all of the ditch is on city property with the exception of the part in front of the Scheeff home. He does not believe the city would do the work in front of 10 i