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Regular Council Minutes 1/24/OS Page 4 to go down Beta to Wilson Mills and back again. But there are probably more alternatives than that worst case scenario but it is the worst case scenario that he heard most. Mr. Marquardt asked, why can't the cut for Judge Krenzler's property be expanded to accommodate at least Dr. Stabile's driveway? Council President Buckholtz asked Mr. Cappello or Mr. Metzung: will you give us what kind of overall length are we talking about? I was thinking first the overall length like from Fisher's to Wanda's or some space where the median cut is now at Krenzler 's? Mr. Cappello looked at his drawings and said it would be 170 - 175' where Judge Krenzler would probably exit his side street opening to approximately where the Stabile property is. About 175' feet. Again, I am scaling off---actually, I apologize, it is closer to 300 some feet. Council President Buckholtz said what I was going to suggest--we did before-we did an "on site" where just everyone that is available get together with Tom and maybe someone from URS and Doug on Saturday morning or whatever and go out there before this is etched in stone--only because creative ideas sometimes come into fruition with mixing with safety concerns. We could have the Chief as well. If it is a long enough distance, then I don't know why there wouldn't be room for two cut-throughs, but if it is a short enough distance then making it a little bit wider would give it enough edge. I know it has been looked at. Mayor Rinker said just so everyone does understand, it is not as if we just went through this " ill ill " I i h w y n y. t s t e contrary. We really looked at a lot of these facets. Candidly, when this discussion came up in front of the S.O.M. Widening Committee, one of the requests that I had made at that time and the committee had agreed to it, Council changed the vote of the committee which was that we'd try to work within the field. And we were very well aware that everybody would like to have a cut through. And part of the reason I think that a lot of people had envisioned that, is I mean, they just assumed that they needed to have this kind of access so we understood that there was, frankly, a lot of political sensitivity about having the cut-through areas. We also were looking at the time that we would have a wider median instead of the thing that I told Dr. Stabile that the original concept had provided for a 24' wide double lane width median and an elevated landscaped median of fhat width would more than adequately allow anybody to be standing in their car broadside against traffic-whatever the flow-which would be the ideal situation but we weren't able to get that. And we thought we would have upwards of 16 to 18 feet of width when we learned that CEI made rule changes that impacted us and our ability to accommodate a buried utility and we had to reduce the width of the median even further. I think that it goes without saying that anybody who has seen the landscape median treatments, again, agrees that they are going to be a real positive factor on S.O.M. Center Road and have a positive effect in our community. The whole concept of the Greenway Corridor dovetails with much of what we are doing today in that roadway. It is something that I think as we adjust to it and we are able to develop it even further, that people will recognize over time that this was a very sound decision that we made--even though there were many, initially, who had misgivings, who had fears, who just instantly assumed that this was going to be awful. And I think that, again, without trying to trivialize legitimate concerns of people who are thinking about ingress and egress to their houses, not to forget that there are now 2 lanes in one direction, 2lanes in the other direction. The traffic flows are going to be dispersed even more; we think that in many respects people will have an easier time getting in and out as long as they are going