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1 <br />responded that Mr. Orlowski is not asking for construction drawings, he is asking <br />for information about utilities, H.V.A.C. so he can ascertain the impact on the <br />areaa Mr. Orlowski answered Mra Isabella's question regarding working drawings <br />and stated that the Plaruiing Comission was not asking for working drawings, but <br />information which is within the purview of the Planning Commission. In response <br />to Mr. Conway's question on curbing, Mr. Orlowski clarified that he wanted it <br />shown on the drawing that the curbing would be installed and what material the <br />pavement is going to be. Mr. Conway advised Mr. Benik that the code required a <br />hard surface and a continuous curb. Regarding the H.V.A.C. equipment, Mr. Benik <br />wanted clarification of this, whether this was a code or if this was in Planning <br />Commission's purview, and noted that if they did install it incorrectly, the <br />Building Inspector would stop them. Mr. Orlowski stated that they asked for this <br />to resolve problems ahead of ..time. Mr. Benik was eoncerned about the time element <br />considering they axe still at square one and-this has been discussed since June. <br />Mr. Conway reminded him that the previous plans were conceptual and now the <br />Conunission is getting into the details. Mr. Benik noted that his previous site <br />plans had been to scale. In reference to -Zlld' requi.ring t?g a site plan of the <br />entire area, Mr. Benik stated that A1r. McDermott could verify tYiat Mr. Griffith <br />had looked through all maps, old and new, and could not find an accurate <br />description of the area, the drawing presented are based on a map that Mr. <br />Griffith stated was the only map the city has of the area since the tiahitethorn <br />intersectian was changed. Mr. Orlowski suggested that he have an engineer survey <br />the area. Mr. Benik asked if Mr. Orlowski was suggesting that North 0].msted's <br />engineers were incompetent. Mr. MeDermott stated that he could not verify Mr.. <br />Benik's statement of what Mr. Griffith did. Mr. Benik objected because, since the <br />city does not have a map, he is supposed to have a survey done of Dunkin' Donuts, <br />Toy 'R Toys and Toyota. Mr. Orlowski stated that, in relation to his property, he <br />woulda Mr. Benik noted that prior to the motion, there was some waffling as to <br />whether this should be tabled or not. He thought that might have meant this could <br />go on to the Architectural Review Board, and then be returned with the other <br />information. Mr. Gorris clarified that he meant that the Conwission could vote on <br />what they had, but he would have to vote against it because he had a lot of <br />questions and it would go on to Council for their approval or..e Mr. Benik <br />interrupted that he woulcl take his chances with Council...Mr. Gorris asked if he <br />could finish and Mr. Benik objected that he could not finish his statements, but <br />Mr. Gorris could hit the gavel and the police come. A4r. Gorris asked for a second <br />to the motion. The motion was seconded by Mr. Tallon. Mr. Skoulis asked for <br />everyone to ca]m down. P7r. Gorris called for a vote and Mr. Benik asked if Mr. <br />Skoulis wanted to make a point. Mr. Skoulis stated that both sides were acting <br />ha,stily, nothing could be resolved by acting like this. He is concerned that the <br />Commission is turning the proposal down. Mr. Orlowski stated that they are merely <br />asking for additional information and if Mr. Benik preferred not to present the <br />information, he could go with whatever avenue he wishes. Mr. Skoulis asked if Mr. <br />Benik was willing to give the information that was requested, since the proposal <br />cannot be voted on with uhat is presented. iMr. Benik'asked if it could be voted <br />on to refer it to the Architectural Review Board. Mr. Skoulis and Mr. Orlowski <br />both responded that there Naas not enough information. Mra Orlowski stated that <br />incomplete information was what Mr. Benik had given since day one, at each <br />meeting he presented a different plan, he-went to B.Z.A. with a plan that the <br />Commission had never seen. Roll call on motion: Orlowski, Tallon, 0'Rourke, and <br />Gorris, yes. Mr. Skoulis, no. Motion carried. P1r. Benik asked Mr. Skoulis what <br />his vote meant. Mr. Skoulis responded that he should provide the information <br />requested. Mr. Benik again asked k'1r. Skoulis what his vote meant, did it mean, <br />not to develop the property at all or did it mean that he would like to vote on <br />10