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a , problem from a traffic engineering standpoint. He also noted that a Mill Road access would have some advantages over a Dover Center access since it could have a full service in and out access, because it would be preferable for a Dover Center access to be right turn only in and out. He stated that it was best to get the cars off the streets without them having to go through an intersection and Mill Road cars coming from Porter Road would not have to go through the Mill/Dover intersection. If there was only a Lorain Road access, they would also have to go through the Lorain/Dover intersection. He believed that having a Mill Road access would alleviate some of the traffic between Mill and Lorain Roads. Mr. Orlowski noted that this would require widening Mill and Porter Roads and installing a traffic light. Mr. Deichinaun responded that a traffic light is warranted at Mill and Dover Center at present, but without a Mill Road access,. traffic would have to pass the residences on Porter Road. Mr. Orlowski thought that customers might use Mill Road to get into the Dover Center access. Witliout the Mill Road access, it would be difficult for cars to go north, since it would be impossible for cars to turn left through an unsignalized mtersection on Lorain, cars would have to turn right and go west to Porter Road, turn right onto Porter, past the residents, and then right onto Mill and left onto Dover Center, or- continue north or else cut through other residential developments. In response to Mr. Tallon's question, Mr.; Papandreas explained that there are safety problems with having an access west of McDonald's since it would bring traffic directly to the front of the building. If they brought the dtive down into the middle of the parking lot it would pull the traffic away from the buildiug, but from the tenants viewpoint it would take some of the parking away from the building and would also be reduudant with two ring roads thus adversely effecting how they could market the property. He noted that there was also a significant grade change between McDonald's and the adjacent shopping center and there would only be a 30 foot wiiie easement for a drive, a retaining wall and a pedestrian walkway. They would also need some adclitional land from McDonald's who have been uncooperative. Mr. Thomas suggested that they remind McDonald's that their employees are parking on their property at this present time. Mr. Papandreas clarified for Mr. Miller that the drive east of McDonald's is 30 feet, but west of McDonald's, a retaining wall would be needed within that 30 feet. He further advised Mr. Tallon that a stacking lane from Rally's to the entrance drive would not be a problem, even though it was not deemed as necessary from a traffic standpoint. Mr. Orlowski would like some sort of a map or diagram showing the population area that these stores would be drawing from, considering the traffic avenues that customers would be using. Mr. Papandreas could get that information, but noted that they are dealing with a certain niche in the market area. Mr. Thomas stated that Circuit City draws from a 50 mile radius, and advised that where there is a concentration of electronic stores in a small area, customers rravel to that area so they can compare prices at several stores. Mr. Orlowski believed that this information would be helpful in determiuing where customers were coming from, and possibly Mill,Road access would not be needed. Mr. Papandreas responded that the Mill Road access would,;help to alleviate the pressures on the surrounding infrastructure, and was not based on where customers would be drawn from. He referred to the alternatives in the traffic studies, and noted that with just one drive on Lorain Road, infrastructure improvements would still be needed. They believed that the three accesses will have the least impact on the surrounding infrastructure (alternate 3) and since there would only be a right turn on Dover, no realignment would be needed. Without the Mill Road access a Dover access would have to have full movement since there would be no way to move northbou.nd on Dover Center, but a left turn on Dover was not recommend by the traffic engineers. He noted that the level of service at Dover 6