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and Lorain is now an "F", with the new signalization program it will be a level "D", if the proposed improvements are enacted (with 3 access points) it will be increased to "C". He clarified that if the right turn lane is installed it would go to a"C" and would be the only right hand turn the city would have to install. Mr. Griffith, Assistant City Engineer, advised Mr. Miller that two companies have done traffic studies on this property, and he estimated that he reviewed and reported on 4 of them. Also, none of the studies addressed the level of service at Dover and Brookpark Extension, and since Dover and Mill is not a.signalized intersection there is no level of service specified for it, and that Lorain and Dover, with the closed loop system, this level would go from an "F" to a"D" and he did not remember the level at Porter and Lorain, and that with this proposal and the suggestions that he has made, Dover and Lorain would end up at a"C" level. Mr. Papandreas added that with the signalization at Dover and Mill, without any widening, Mill Road would have level "C" service, but there was no level evaluated for 3 lanes on Mill. Mr. Miller verified that none of these plans required the widening of Mill Road. Mr. Griffith stated that if the- worse case happened, such as if this changed to a shopping center, a third lane might be needed, but not at this point with this proposal. He further advised that, if Dover Center were widened, the county would pay about 90% and he clarified that.the county bases plans on what the traffic growth is going to be from now to 20 years from now: •Mr. Miller believed that the study recommend.iug the widening was done about 10 years ago and thought perhaps the intersection is at that point now and that some relief is necessary b}% bleed.ing off traffic onto Mill. Mr. Gorris noted that even if the county paid for the widening, the residents would still help to pay for it. Mr. Miller asked Mr. Crriffith what his recommendations were for the entrances. Mr. Griffith responded that he agreed with what is being proposed and the Mill Road access should be moved about 425 feet from Dover Center Road, the existing one is too close to the intersection, and further he agreed that Dover Center should be right turn only in and out and that Lorain Road should have a left out even though it would be difficult during peak hours, it would be feasible du.ring non-peak hours. Mr. Deichmann stated that they could not give an estimate cost to the city until they have completed their review. Mr. Papandreas advised Mr. Miller that the mound would be 8 feet high from the floor elevation; that the existing chain link fence would be relocated to the top of the mound for security, and landscaping for visual screening. Mrs. O'Rourke noted that Wal-Mart had proposed an 8 foot high board on board fence, and questioned why they would propose chain link. This can be discussed with the residents. Mr. Papandreas clarified that store "B" would have stereo installation facility in the rear with the doors facing west, but even though all installation is done inside they have asked them to consider relocating the doors to tlie south. They have inclicated to the residents that they would make studies to find out what could be done to eliminate any sound trespass. The H.V.A.C. u.nits will be screened with some type of acoustical screening, so that it would reflect noise to the east. Mr. Miller doubted that they would test stereo equipment and car alarms with the doors closed. Mr. Papandreas advised that the forester had not been aware of the proposal so he asked him to look at the mature trees, especially on the peripheral area. He noted that there is little vegetation on the west bou.udary, and that is where most of the mounding will be. Chairman Gorris called a 5 minute recess prior to hearing from the residents. Law Director Gareau arrived during the recess. After the recess, Mr. Hoelter, a resident of Porter Road, agreed that they did have a productive meeting with the developers. Regarding the fence, they were talking about using the existing fence, but he did not mean that the existing fence should be on top of the dike. He believed that they should start tlus project where they left offwith Wal-Mart who had planned on a sound barrier on the top of the dike. Since this proposal 7