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F? <br />rear landscaping will remain the same and landscaping will replace the west drive if it is removed. Mr. <br />Tallon would like a landscaped mound in the rear to shield a new residential subdivision which is to be <br />developed later. Mr. Darghous was concerned because there was only about a 12 inch cover over the <br />underground detention pipe that runs along the rear and he understands that there could be a problem <br />with roots going into the pipe and that plantings might not survive. Mr. Herbster suggested landbanking <br />the rear 61 parking spaces and putting the pipe under the grass area. The plans show the detention under <br />parking, but Mr. Darghous stated that this had been tried, but later it was decided that it was not <br />workable. Mr. Herbster would like to see the storm water pumped up to Lorain Road. Assistant City <br />Engineer McDermott explained that there was no relief point in this area for them to connect to Lorain <br />Road sewers. Mr. Darghous explained the detention plans to the members privately and explained that <br />the average elevation of the site would be 53.5 which is the elevation of the building. Because of security, <br />Mr. Tallon would also like a fence on top of the mound and would like the fence to continue around on <br />the east side adjacent to the residential area. Mr. Gross had no problem with the fence. It was clarified <br />that the commission would like a continuous 6 foot board on board to be placed as close to the top of a <br />4 foot moundas possible with landscaping to soften the fence; and continued around the east corner to <br />protect those the residences. Mr. Gross explained that the lighting plan will have to be adjusted to the <br />revisions in the parking and paving. The shoe box type light fixtiire directs the light down and will be on <br />28 foot high bronze anodized poles, the lights adjacent to residents will be shielded. Mr. Tallon would <br />like the poles reduced to 15 foot poles and believed that the two 400 watt metal halide bulbs would be <br />excessive. Mr. Gross clarified that they would only have lighting under the canopy over the walkway and <br />the three signs so they do ueed some lighting in the parking lot. He stated that they can reduce the height <br />of the poles, but they will probably have to add a few more in appropriate places. Mr. Tallon believed that <br />800 watts of light on these poles would be too harsh, and he would like them to consider softening the <br />light and elimiuating the rear poles since that parking has been eliminated. Mr. Gross stated that now they <br />would install a similar style wall pak on the rear of the building. Mr. Tallon cautioned that the wall-paks <br />would have to be a wall washer type, not an open lens and advised that all light would have to be <br />contained on their property. Mr. Gross will submit revised plans and cuts of the fixtures. Regarding the <br />Sears garden center, Mr. Papandreas stated that low wattage down lights will be concealed within the <br />structure of the roof. They will be using the garden center all year round and there will be some storage. <br />He reiterated that this will be enclosed with an iron gate, about 4 or 5 inches on-center, painted to match <br />the center and with piers to support the roof stntcture. Mr. Walczyk, a resident, objected to having any <br />more water mmning down West 231 Street since there is too much water coming from Lorain Road now. <br />He stated that he was told that if there is much more water going iuto Westlake, they were going to <br />close it off completely. He maintained that there is only one pipe coming from the strip stores that are <br />there now. He frequently clears out the sewers hunself. Councilman Miller asked that the engineer repeat <br />his explanation about how the storm water was to be handled. Mr. Darghous explained that they could <br />only release 90% of the water from what it is now so they will be reducing the flow. Assistant City <br />Engineer McDermott advised that this was required by the current ordinance, Section 927 of the codified <br />ordinances and it would be enforced. Mr. Miller asked that the grade of mound be established so that the <br />height of the mound did not vary. He requested that signage be posted advising of the ordinance that <br />regulated deliveries, times that deliveries are allowed, and penalties involved. He also suggested that a <br />brick retainer wall be included around the garden center with the wrought iron fencing above in order to <br />obscure some of the material that is stored. Mr. Gross advised that the duffipster will be enclosed with a <br />board on board fence similar to the fence that is on the mound; they will try to work out with Sears a 32 <br />or 40 inch lugh split face block wall. Appropriate signage can be installed in the delivery area. Mr. <br />Zingalli, sign contractor, presented drawings of the ground sign in colors that would blend in with the <br />building. It was clarified that the peach and teal colors had been elimiuated, and they were using a Dover <br />2