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. ? <br />at the lot line, and if necessary, they have to either shield the lights or reduce the wattage to meet this <br />requirement. It was noted that the poles are 14 feet and the building is 14 feet high. Mr. Tallon stated <br />that the 14 feet should be from ground level, so the fixtures are not above the building. In the Safety <br />Department report there was a reference to having a drive on Mildred Avenue, however Building <br />Commissioner Conway advised that the fire marshal was concerned because they were parking vehicles, <br />especially ambulances, in the drive and fire trucks could not get through, but that was resolved by adding <br />the parking on the side for emergency vehicles. The members discussed the proposal among themselves. <br />They questioned the drainage and who would be responsible if the drains were blocked. Mr. Conway <br />responded that Engineering could look at this and report at the next meeting. In response to a question. <br />that was not audible, Mr. Deichmami explained that normally the property owner would maiutain the <br />grass, but it would be between Manor Care and the property owners regarding maintenance on the <br />underground piping. He further explained that if the parking lot is graded toward the properiy line and a <br />curb is around, it will direct the flow to the catch basins in the parlcing lot and minimi?e the runoff on the <br />site to the adjoining properry. By locating yard drains on adjoining property they are picking up the low <br />spots, and the curb would minimize the water run off. Mr. Bartko commented that they have had a water <br />problem for the last 23 years. This building was built in 1974, and in 1984 an ordinance was finally <br />passed that gave people the right not to have water draining on their properry by raised property. He <br />studied the plans, and noted that in some places the Manor Care property is iwo foot, two and three <br />eight's inches higher than the property line, and the water must go somewhere. He requested that the <br />people who are responsible for seeing that this is done right, make sure that the grades are done properly <br />so that the adjacent properties are not effected. He wants them to study this, since he saw a lot of zero <br />grading in the plans. He presented pictures of the area. Mr. Baker, another resident, explained that the <br />nursing home abuts all of his 144 feet of property. He believed that when they put the nursing home <br />there they should have allowed room for expansion, and noted that all traffic comes in on the east side of <br />the property, next to him, and trucks must back in or back out. The developer pointed out the driveway <br />location, and Mr. Baker was concerned about the traffic that will come around and drop offmerchandise <br />or empty dumpsters a.nd the noise that will be generated. He advised there is property for sale west of <br />Manor Care on Lorain Road and believed this property would be a prime location for the driveway as it <br />would cut down on the traffic adjacent to the residential properties considerably. There would be <br />apartments next to this, but Mr. Baker believed they akeady get noise. Mr. Baker noted trucks will be <br />visible from his home as it is higher. He was concemed about the value of his property and asked that <br />some of the confusion be eliminated in his back yard. Mr. Baker noted that some of the trees that were <br />taken out were not dead. Mr. Howard responded that there is no turn around now and by creating one, <br />they will eliminate trucks backing in and out which would eliminate some noise. If trucks are delivering <br />too early, something can be worked out. Mr. Baker advised his grade is higher than Manor Care so he <br />would not get a whole lot of water ruu of? but the proposed board on board fence was not high enough <br />to shield offthe Manor Care property. It was clarified for Mr. Koeth, that there is about 10 feet between <br />the curb and the property line, and the fence is about three feet off the property line, but that varies <br />somewhat. It was further clarified that the lots on either side of Mr. Bartko were also getting flooded. <br />Mr. Howard stated that when they remove the asphalt to put in a concrete curb to the west they will be <br />reducing a 22 foot parking space to 20 feet and will landscape that area. It was clarified that the fence <br />which is shown as curved will be straightened out and jogged away from the sanitary sewer. Chairman <br />Tallon suggested that the fence on the east property line be put on a three foot mound. Mr. Howard <br />explained how the drainage will work, but stated that they could put a mound in if necessary; he noted <br />that the V shaped swail would take care of the water. The members agreed that this should be up to the <br />Engineering Department. He clarified that the turning radius had been changed to meet the Fire <br />Department's requirements. Mr. Conway advised that the board of zoning appeals had approved the <br />special permit, but this proposal would need a conditional use permit from the commission for the <br />4
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