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,. ,..?. normal or a residential noise area versus a commercial area. Councilman McKay advised that during the Wa1-Mart proposal, they had an expert in that field who had advised that brick walls or stone wall deadened sound better tha.n wood or other types of materials. Mr. Herschman stated that they could do an acoustical study, and that the sound deflects, so the closer it is to the zone, the greater the effect. This is why the masonry walls are immediate to where the trucks are unloading to contain the noise from where it emanates. He advised that an acoustical study could be looked at. Mr. Barlow stated that this is why there were two barriers, the screen walls, and the secondary one at the property line. Mr. Reed clarified that the intent is to deflect the sound to the sky, so it will not inapinge on the residents, but he wondered what percentage of sound there would be after bounces off the building and returns toward the condominiums. Mr. Herschman gave an example of air conditioners condensers, the neighbors can hear a side discharge condenser, the vertical discharge condensers no one can hear. There are some noises, such as the dumpster unloaders, that cannot be mu$led, but the ordinance can be followed. It was clarified that the seivice road would be cut offby a large landscape area behind the theater to prohibit vehicles from cutting through on that road, it will be visually adding to the condo's backyard. Mr. Tallon questioned if there was not some kind of sound ba$ling material that could be placed inside the screen walls. Mr. Hersclunan advised that most of them would not hold up after a winter, but there was a way of laying the brick up on the interior walls. He also mentioned other methods and materials including a concrete block, called a sound block, which would fracture the sound. He also noted that the truck docks were recessed which would also help with the noise. Mr. Tallon would like some kind of these materiaLs installed on the interior walls. Mr. Manning asked who had control over the store hours, the company or the build.iug owners. Mr. Herschmau stated that the city's ordinances could control the hours, the owners could not ma.ke rules for one specific tenant. Assistant Law Director Dubelko stated that the hours are not a zoning matter, this would be regulated by the Business Regulations, and he mentioned that one ordinance did regulate the hotus of restaurant drive through operations, so the city can regulate the hours of businesses when they impact adversely on residents. So the city has that type of authority when a retail establislunent created a serious noise problem. This is not a zoning issue which would have to be dealt with before a business went in, but as a Business Regulation, it can be dealt with after a business is established. Mr. Unger, a resident, envisioned that there would be a line of trucks on the road behind the his home and 26 trees would not be many in that area. Mrs. Kensig, whose mother lives behind the old Handy Andy Store, asked what stores were going to be torn down. Mr. Herschman responded that U. S. Merchandise, and Koenigs will be torn down, and the stores past PetsMart to the theater will be tom down and rebuilt. Mrs. Kensig asked why they could not go further to the front instead building back toward condominiums. Mr. Herschman did not think that would be possi`ble. Mr. Tallon advised that they would need two variances, one for the half mile radius and the other for the lot coverage. Mr. Tallon explained that the proposal should come back to planning commission on January 13, 1997, at which time it will be forwarded to architectural review board on January 21st and board of zoning appeals on January 22nd. At the next meeting, the commission would like to see a plan for the landbanked parking, the photometric plan; an acoustical study; the compactor moved at Major Retail "B"; a stop sign and sfop bar installed at the west end of drive; and if the variance to have a superstore is granted the developers will have to comply with the ordinance regarding what is requ.ired for the approval of superstores. R. Tallon moved to table the Developers Diversified Realty Corporation, 25853 thru 26429 Cneat Northern Shopping Center and 5078 thru 5194 Great Northern Plaza South until7anuary 13, 1998 with the request that the developers present the above listed items. The motion was seconded by T. Herbster, and unanimously approved. 6