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? actual green metal that is on the Rini's facade. Mr. Liggett questioned if there was glass on the adjacent storefront and would like to see a photograph. Mr. Klein stated that this is a store that Rini's will be taldng over. He visited the site today, and noted that the green basically grays out and is not a decidedly green color except in the morning and this blue is conapatible with that. He advised Mr. Liggett that where it turns the coruer, the facade retunis and will step back down about 8 feet. The height on the one side is to match the elevation of the adjacent metal mansard as requested by planniug commission. Mr. Liggett believed that this created a new element in the facade, he would prefer that the entire facade be flip-flopped. Mr. Klein would like it to raise up the whole area so it builds up the corner. Mr. Zergott asked if they had looked for a free standing building, and he believed that every unit in a strip center should match, and he thought that was the direction the board was going in. He believed this concept totally deviates from that and wondered how this could be allowed in a strip center. Mr. Yager stated that the little canopies with the graphics on them are superb and questioned what part of the mouutainscape was considered a sign. Mr. Conway advised that once the ligliting was taken off of the background it would not be considered a sign, only a rectangle around the "Hollywood Video", but the awnings would be considered signage since there were graphics, spot lights and rolls of film. Mr. Yager stated that originally he wanted them to do a lot more, at the last meeting they brought in a proposal with the canopy, and it appears that they have changed to compromise with the owner and the city. He does not think the blue looks terribly different from the green and believed that the mou.ntainscape will be dynamic. He does not get the feeling that this is part of Rini's, since Rini's stands alone, he never thought of Dot's,.Play It Again Sports, as part of the Rini's plaza. This may not be the architecture that suits him to a"T", but it is going in the right direction. Mr. Liggett stated that he would agree with keeping the signage and eveiythiug same in a small strip center, but if any place in this strip would be appropriate to do this, this would be it, but the 30 foot of green mansard roof bothers him completely, but he thiuks Hollywood Video will look like this is its own, independent building because of what they are doing and he believes the portion next to it will fade away. He pointed out that the Shoe Warehouse further down is also separate and takes offin a different fashion, it is its own independent feature connected in a strip center and this would be similar. That is why this does not bother him. He believed that this proposal with the pilasters included, becomes its own independent feature. Mr. Klein agreed about the green section which, he believed would almost become a neutral space between the two elements. He explained that his firm does thousands of strip centers, and they do attempt to create a variety of facades, so it does not become a long "tube of tooth paste" with signs on it. In the Promenade there are individual statements by the various tenants. In another center the "big box" tenants have individual entrances. He thought that Rini's might do something on the little unit next door. Mr. Yager believed that there is a coordination of colors. Mr. Gallagher noted that the building is set way back, and accenting it will make it look like a separate building. He believed it would make this area stand out. Mr. Zergott stated that he would have no problem with this if it were a stand alone building, but he is concerned that this open up a"can of worms". Mr. Klein clarified that the awniugs are not back lit. W. Conway stated that one of the details still show some lighting. Mr. Klein reiterated that there will be no lighting under the awniugs. They had planned to put the letters on the raceways, but Mr. Yager would prefer that the individual letters on the mountains. Mr. Conway asked what would happen if Hollywood Video went out of business. Mr. Klein advised that the facade will remain in back since this is an extended front that will return and the weather will drop down between the existing mansard and this treatment. If Hollywood Video leaves, Mr. Gallagher would like to see this brought back to the board to make sure that it is removed. W. Liggett commented noted that the colu.mns are gray instead of tan which is on Rini's. W. Klein stated that basically this is a light white on a gray base, almost like a Dover white. If this is a warm white, Mr. Liggett believed that this would suffice. He would prefer to see the south corner higlier than is shown in the rendering. 5