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, . .,. . Zergott noted there is an important aspect in this community that is being overlooked by the various boards and commissions. He asked that all boards and commissions be reminded there is a forester that can review the site and make recommendations. Mr. Yager agreed and noted architectural review board needs Mr. Wendell's opinions m order to make a recommendation to planning commission. Mr. Zergott advised recently a number of trees have been removed from various commercial sites throughout the community that did not necessarily have to be removed. He believed such trees were removed to make the building proposals easier which should not be an issue. Mr. Baker, a Mildred property owner, noted he can see over the fence on the west of the property. It was noted there is a sewer easement in this area. Mr. Baker was concerned about the fence being to close to his property. He wondered if the new fence can possibly be moved so that it is even with the fence at the southernmost end of the property. Mr. Yager noted that this concern is aesthetic in nature. Mr. Liggett advised fumes also create a problem as there is only a 10 feet barrier between Mr. Baker's properiy and the parking. He wondered if the location of the swail was necessary as it does not benefit Mr. Baker because the grade of his land is higher than Manor Care. Mr. Howard explained the city requ.ires that the water be maintained on the property. He explained the swail is to draiu off tlie lower neighbors. Mr. Liggett questioned if it is possible to stop the swail where the ground is low and build it up with a landscape retaining wall which will allow the land to be built up so it is natural with Mr. Bakers land. He noted the six foot high fence is only three feet above Mr. Bakers land which does not help in the least. Mr. Liggett clarified the land can be built up to a level that is even with Mr. Bakers land. The fence would then be high enough and there could be a landscaped buffer on the east side of the fence. Mr. Behrand explained he does not object to accommodating the residents, but the fence resulted from repeated requests from the residents. He explained that several of the residents requested a fence, however Mr. Baker was not present at that meeting to give an opinion. The fence was put in as an attempt to appease the residents concems. Mr. Yager questioned how far the fence is off the Baker's property. Mr. Behrand explained the curb is 10 feet off of the property line, which is 14 feet from Mr. Baker's dwelling. He noted origmally the fence was located on the property line, but it was moved back 10 feet as a result of requests by Mr. Baker. Mr. Baker was satisfied with the board on board fence, but wondered if the fence can continue in a straight line, even with the proposed fence abutting Mrs. Swardell's property. Mr. Zergott wondered if an agreement can be reached. Mr. Baker advised if Manor Care agrees to extend the fence in the same line as the existing fence he would agree to those terms. Mr. Behrand agreed to jog the fence along the bank of the curb. Mr. Liggett wondered if some landscaping can be included along the eastern edge of the properiy. Mr. Yager noted there is no land available to include landscaping between the parking lot and the fence. Mr. Liggett stated the landscaping can be included on the east side of the fence. He understood this would be a maintenance issue with the city if something such as Arbor Vitae is planted on.the residents side of the fence. Mr. Behrand wondered how much maintenance Arbor Vitae's require. Mr. Zergott advised there is very little maintenance requ.ired with Arbor Vitae, however, they have not handled Cleveland weather very well the past few years. Mr. Yager advised by moving the fence to the curb, Mr. Behrand is allowing the abutting properties to appear larger. He wondered if the residents would be willing to perform the maintenance, if Mr. Behrand is willing to plant the trees. Mr. Behrand was willing to accommodate this but noted this may effect the swail which is an important part of collecting the water. Mr. Howard noted ifthe land along Mr. Baker's property is built up it will pond. He did not want to put French drains in all of the back yards. Mr. Liggett clarified the swail can be shallower along Mr. Bakers property or at the same grade and create a deeper swail in the other areas. He noted this would work better with the planting or the fence. Mr. Behrand stated the fence would be on the high side of the swail. It was noted a catch basin ties into the swail which leads into the retention system Mr: Howard explained he has done a topographical plan of 7