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<br />mound extended. Mrs. O'Rourke commented that the board recommended 24 more feet. Mr. <br />Tallon commented that it is going to go up to the south edge of the proposed driveway. Mrs. <br />Smith-Dorey thanked the board for their time. Bob Hebabrand came forward again. He <br />indicated that there used to be a traffic light on Dewey and thought that it would be good idea to <br />put one back in. Mr. Tallon suggested that it probably didn't meet the state warrants. A resident <br />and Councilman Duane Limpert, 4921 Berkshire Dr., came forward to speak. He indicated that <br />he had photographs of Lake Dewey during rain conditions. With a conditional use they may be <br />able to have the developer do a little bit more, and questioned if there was any way some of the <br />runoff can somehow be retained under the mound or something like that. Mr. Tallon indicated <br />that all of the water that lands on the site has to be maintained on that site. So, there is no runoff, <br />the runoff is the site itself. Mr. Asseff questioned if Mr. Limpert was saying they take some of <br />the runoff down Dewey and divert it into the retention basin, which means the retention basin <br />should be a little larger. Mr. Limpert replied yes. The initial major cost is putting in the <br />retention that they are doing, it may not be very expensive to make that retention larger. If <br />anything like this could be brought in, it would be helpful. That is part of the benefit of having it <br />as a conditional use permit as opposed to rezoning it. Mr. Dubelko pointed out that KIA does <br />not have a conditional use permit, it is use variance. The Board of Zoning Appeals sets the <br />conditions for the use variance. He looked at the minutes and the only conditions they placed <br />upon the use variance was mounding, lighting and those things. He doesn't think that drainage <br />was mentioned at all, so he doesn't think the City can use the use variance to impose additional <br />requirements from them. That is not to say that Halleen and the City could not cooperate <br />together; the City doing some work in the right-of-way in conjunction with Halleen doing his <br />retention to improve Dewey Rd. That is the legal approach to it. Sara Shimmelfane, 5212 <br />Dewey Rd., came forward and questioned if there were lights on the mounds. Mr. Tallon replied <br />no. Mrs. Shimmelfane indicated that she would like to know sooner than later in terms of how <br />late the lights would be on. The CVS lights turn off at about nine o'clock every night. She <br />questioned how much lighting is currently thei-e versus how much lighting is being proposed. <br />Mr. Tallon indicated that there is basically no lighting there now compared to what they are <br />proposing. Mrs. Shimmelfane replied that was her point. She thanked the board for their time. <br />Judy Kellar, a resident from 5232 Dewey came forward. Mrs. Kellar indicated that she had a big <br />problem with the lights the way they are now. There is enough light from CVS to light up that <br />whole parking lot. KIA tore down the Partner's Bar that was on the corner. It was supposed to <br />be totally landscaped with no cars. There are trucks parked on it and there is no landscaping or <br />trees, which the residents were promised. She accused Halleen of lying to the residents. Mr. <br />Hreha indicated that this whole thing disturbed him. Many of these agreements were made <br />before he was part of this commission, particularly Partner's and the agreement on where cars <br />would be parked. Now here we are faced with tiying to work with an organization and delicately <br />balance the relationship between residents and a commercial property. He addressed N1r. Kula <br />and commented that if it wasn't so insulting, it would be comical for him to stand up here and say <br />that he has no comment on the parking issue. Topps came in because they are relocating and <br />they went on their own and worked with the residents before they even came to talk to this body <br />for the first time. They showed cooperation and everything went smoothly for them. Mr. Allan <br />commented that he didn't know if KIA could do any worse than they have already in terms of <br />their relations with the adjoining properties and residences. A reputation like that doesn't happen <br />by accident, it takes some effort. It is unusual to see this in front of the commission, usually the <br />developers put some work into developing relations with the people that adjoin them and <br />normally people are reasonable and willing to work together. Apparently that is not happening <br />in this case and he thinks it needs to start. The sooner, the better. <br />8
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