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i <br />not want to agree to anything that the board has not seen. He read the Planning Commission <br />minutes and questioned why the items that were agreed to were not shown on the plans. Mr. <br />Zwick suagested that the owners and the City have had many meetings, but he was never <br />instructed to submit new plans. Mr. Koeth remarked that it would be very hard for this board to <br />make a motion on something they have not seen. Mr. Crrendal suagested that other then the <br />sidewalk nothing is missing from the plans. Mrs. O'Rourke questioned were the guest parking <br />was located that was requested by the board at the first meeting. Mr. Grendal indicated that there <br />is no guest parking in Cinnamon Woods. Mr. Tallon reminded the applicant that they were <br />instructed to show the required guest parking on new plans. There are a total of 16 guest parking <br />spaces that are required. Mr. Zwick showed that there were three spaces designated. Mr. Tallon <br />indicated that the board wanted the guest parking that is required. Mr. Hreha indicated that the <br />way this is laid out it encourages people to park in the street, which will cause a safety hazard. <br />Mr. Grendal indicated that the same situation is at Cinnamon Woods and there has not been a <br />problem. Mr. Koeth indicated that the site is not the same site. Most of the homes in Cinnamon <br />Woods are cul-de-sac and have more than one way out and this is one long street. He strongly <br />recommend, that plans be submitted that show what was requested at the June 12, 2001 meeting. <br />Mr. Dubelko indicated that the developer is in an awkward position at no fault of his own. The <br />code provides generally that the Planning Commission in a single family cluster development can <br />vary the requirements and he feels that is what the developer intended to do when he came here <br />tonight. At the same time there is also the general variance granting powers of the Board of <br />Zoning Appeals. This developer has been getting different signals from different places in the City <br />suggesting that if sotnething does not work out in Planning Commissions then they can just go to <br />the Board of Zoning Appeals. There is nothing in the code that says it can not be done, but he <br />does not feel that that is the way to go. The deveIoper is asking the Planning Coirunission to <br />grant a mass variance instead of having to go before the Board of Zoning Appeals. Mr. Hreha <br />believes that the last plans that wei-e approved for Cinnamon Woods had flaws and now this board <br />is being asked to make decisions without complete plans, which would only cause the same <br />mistakes. 1VIr. Dubelko reviewed that this is something that has been done on the same bases and <br />has worked. Mr. Tallon remarked that each page of the layouts are different and this board asked <br />the developer to come back with something consistent, show sidewalks, and guest parking <br />somewhere on the plans. Yet nothing has been subinitted and the developer wants this board to <br />sign off on the plans. Mr. Grendal indicated that there could be parking and sidewalks shown on <br />final plans. He reviewed that the code allows this board to allow changes to the code. They <br />would like the board to allow a smaller living unit as well as pole lights, which will be on the <br />driveway of each condominium. Mr. Tallon commented that while Mr. Zwick is addressing the <br />parking issue, find out how many condominiums built would be the smaller unit. Mr. Grendal <br />indicated that 30% to 40% of the condominiums would be the smaller unit. Mr. Zwick reviewed <br />the plans with the board members to find a good spot for the guest parking. It was decided that <br />the guest parking would be placed sporadically throughout the site, so visitors will not have to <br />walk as far once they park. Mr. Crrendal questioned if they could be placed on the next planning <br />docket. Mr. Conway indicated that if they needed to return then they would be on the docket. <br />Mr. Tallon questioned what the size of the smallest unit was. Mrs. Priestas indicated that the <br />smallest unit is 1360 square feet. She indicated that there is a sunroom, which is an option for the <br />smaller unit and would make the square footage exceed the minimum requirement. Her research <br />has shown that the retirement couples that are buying in this area already live within North <br />2
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