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a z ,t < - .J they will have and who will be parking in the back area. Mr. Davison said it would be employees and people there for training. Ms. Schulz said what the board is presenting seems to make more sense. 1VIr. Davison said flipping it 180 degrees would not work because the building will be over the property line. He can see maybe flipping it 90 degrees and making it work. Mr. Yager said he would like them to re- evaluate the site. He is uncomfortable and he would not accept the proposal as submitted. There are a few things they can do. They can ask for a vote. He indicated they are a board of recommendation so if they don't like the vote, they can go to someone else and they can overrule. Most of the time, the other boards listen to the Architectural Review Board. The board can ask them to go back and re- evaluate the site and come back. They can offer to table the proposal and have the applicant come back, or they can ask for a vote to use in whatever manner they want. He said those are the options. He added that the applicants have heard enough from the board and there has not been much wavering. They can now choose the direction they want to go. Mr. Davison said they already got the variances and he doesn't see how they can move it the way the board is recommending. They are restricted by the site. If they put the entrance on Dover they would have no parking. He said they can make it look like the front. Mr. Zergott asked if it is representative of the kind of building Mr. Davison would want to work in as far as landscaping. He certainly would have presented a more beautiful landscape design. Mr. Yager asked if they would be selling the tenants the property. Mr. Khouri said they are leasing the property. Mr. Yager said the property could then become a part of the bigger property, which is Water Tower Square. He said they could get a lot consolidation and they would not have nearly the restrictions they feel they have now. Mr. Khouri said they would have a problem with parking. Mr. Yager said the difference they are talking about is maybe 8 spaces in a lot that holds 1200. He said the make-or-break zone is 8 spaces. Mr. Khouri said that is code. Mr. Yager said in all the times he has been in the plaza he has never seen anyone park over in the section in question. He said they are talking about the applicants being crimped by sornething that is more mystique than reality. The property line is not their property line; it is your property line. He added the city is already perceiving the two entities together otherwise they would not be able to do half the things they are doing here. Mr. Khouri said Water Tower Square gave a company an easement to encroach on the land. Mr. Yager said they would not have gotten a variance if they did not already own a certain portion of land. Mr. Zergott said they should table it or deny it. He pointed out the board does not have a meeting in August. He askecl if tlie board would be wilting to meet if the appiicants came back with somethinb substantial. Mr. Yager said he can meet with them any time. He asked the applicant if they would rather the board vote on it, or table the proposal. He inentioned they could have a special meeting just to look at their proposal. He mentioned they could fax material to his office to expedite matters. The applicants went into the hall to discuss the options. The board members discussed the location of the trash enclosures. Mr. Davison came back and announced they would prefer to table the proposal. Mr. Zergott pointed out the board discussed the duinpster area. Mr. Khouri said they will inove it. Mr. Yager said he believes they can flip or rotate the building as the owner of both properties. The minutes that he reviewed regarding the zoning code show him that the city already perceives the two together. So, they have the flexibility of at least making the effort to show the board that it can't work unless it is done as originally proposed. Mr. Khouri said they will need to talk with the tenants. Mr. Yager said they don't want to lose the tenant on the site. Mr. Khouri pointed out they could lose him/the tenant on Lauren Hill, the lease is up there. It is a North Olmsted tenant and they want to keep him here. Mrs. Nader said if they are able to flip it, they will have a much more attractive frontage on Dover Center. As an owner they will have a better building. If a tenant moves out or they look to sell, they will have a much better building. Mr. Khouri said they have a 20-year lease with the tenant and they don't want to loose it. Mr. Yager said they can work through the tenant and the owner, and he will work through the city to arrange a meeting. Mr. Conway commented that if they do not decide on a date for the meeting now, they will have to consider that a week is required for legal notices. Mr. Khouri wondered if the tenant decides he doesn't want to face Dover, would they be abie to put in windows and put up a canopy. Mr. Zergott said that nowhere in North Olmsted can they allow landscaping to blacktop without planting around the building. Mr. Khouri said the landscaping is easy but the tenant is adamant about facing 5