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time he has ever heard quick-serve and gourmet in the same sentence. He is a bit baffled. He asked for the intended hours of operation. Mr. Wilson said the hours of 11:00 a.m. until 10 or 11:00 p.m. is typical and they are open 7 days a week. He said the founder of the restaurant is a classically trained chef and he is all about the food. It is very much a gourmet menu however it is quick serve and there is a simple menu. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked if they ever had a drive-through at their facilities. 1VIr. Wilson said he does not believe so, at least not in Ohio. Mr. Koeth mentioned their facility on Mayfield Road. Mr. Wilson indicated they have a facility in Lakewood and Strongsville. They discussed the design and location of those facilities. Mrs. O'Rourke asked if it is a corporate design building. Mr. Wilson indicated it is. W. Koeth asked about the deliveries. Mr. Wilson indicated most deliveries are during the evening, as well as trash pick up. Mr. Spalding asked how many interior tables there will be. Mr. Wilson replied they will have 48 inside and 20 on the patio. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked if the patio will be screened in any way. W. Wilson said it will be fenced and gated but otherwise unscreened. The fence will be 3 feet 6 inches. Mr. Rymarczyk said the applicant omitted showing a truck loading/unloading zone. They would have adequate area where they do show parallel parking to incorporate one if need be. He said parallel parking does not comply with our code. He said that parking is along the drive and Great Northern Shopping Center. He said those spots were not counted in the parking total. Mr. Wilson said with those spots they meet the minimum parking requirements. Mr. Rymarczyk said they need to look at the total development and not just the applicant's building because of the conditions. Mr. Rymarczyk said they take the total shopping center into consideration. Mr. Wilson asked how the current park-n-ride agreement affects the parking equation because technically those spaces are not available for the mall. W. Rymarczyk said they were accounted for as part of the shopping center. Mr. Wilson said Panera's is the closest as far as a business model. Mrs. O'Rourke asked if there was market research done to see if it's ok to put it next to another Mexican restaurant. Mr. Wilson said they have not had issues with that in the past. They have a niche market and it fills the in between of fast food and a sit down full scale restaurant. The price point and food quality puts it in its own niche market. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked for the price point. Mr. Wilson said if a person gets a burrito, chips and a drink, they are out the door for $8. Mr. Wilson mentioned there is no freezer on the premises. There is a cooler. There is no microwave, no can opener, so everything is fresh. Mrs. HofF-Smith asked if there are any other designs that they use. Mr. Wilson said their buildings are very unique from site to site. The proposed building is only the second time that configuration has been used. Mrs. O'Rourke asked if they can see other ones. Mr. Wilson indicated this is really the building they want to use on that site. Mr. Rymarczyk asked if the walk-in cooler would be visible from Lorain. Mr. Wilson said it would not be. Mr. Rymarczyk said in looking at the site plan, it is. Mr. Wilson said you would see the cooler except for the fact that there will be a tree put in to shield it. Mr. Rymarczyk asked if there are any plans to make the cooler blend in with the building. Mr. Wilson indicated it will blend in. Mr. Rymarczyk suggested that the applicant point that out to the Architectural Review Board if they go to that board. Mr. Spalding asked if it will be all brick around the building. Mr. Wilson indicated that other than the entry feature the remainder of the building will be brick. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked what the patio surface will be. Mr. Wilson replied it will be scored concrete. Mr. Koeth asked if the lighting will only be on the building. Mr. Wilson said there will be pole lighting for the parking. Mrs. 0'Rourke asked how high the poles will be. Ms. Obert indicated they are 18 feet with a cut-off type fixture. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked about the material for the dumpster enclosures. Mr. Wilson conf?irmed it is a galvanized sheet metal which will match the entry feature of the building. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked if they can match the brick of the building. Mr. Wilson said that request can be accommodated. Mr. Rymarczyk asked how high the bottom of the light fixture is to the grade. Ms. Obert said it is l 1x17 and is reflected in the photometric plan. Mr. Koeth asked how high the parking lot lights are currently. W. Rymarczyk said he believes they are 25 feet. Mrs. Hoff-Smith asked about the building lights near the proposed facility. Mr. Rymarczyk said they are probably no higher than the roof line but there they could vary some, as long as they do not exceed the height of the roof line. He asked if the board would like to discuss the signage. He said if we know exactly what they are coming in for it would save time later. He indicated the board can leave it up to the Board of Zoning Appeals. The signage dimensions are on drawing A205. Ms. Obert indicated she can call Mr. Ryinarczyk tomorrow to go over the figures and work it out. Mr. Wilson asked if they move on to the Board of Zoning Appeals would they still be addressing signage. Mr. Koeth said if they work it out with the building department and cut down on signage they wouldn't have to. Mr. Rymarczyk said if they wanted to hold off on the entire sign package they could. Mr. Wilson said they would like to do it all at once. Mr. Rymarczyk indicated the more they can eliminate, the better. Mr. 0'Malley pointed out the Board of Zoning Appeals has recently been receiving counsel that they should start with compliance with the code. They are trying to encourage the Board of Zoning Appeals to start from the principle that we are going to have signs that comply with the code so if the applicant is looking for some direction, he would counsel this commission, for the sake of consistency, that the applicant might consider compliance with the code as a starting point. As opposed to excessive variances and waiting for the Board of Zoning Appeals to just say no. Mr. Koeth asked the applicant if he is willing to work with the 11