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Mr. Hreha said all he is asking him to do is what he already said, that the photometrics do not take into account any other lighting but this would be in addition to the lighting or the spillage that is already there. Mr. Hreha said don't add any, make it zero at the lot line. Mr. Koeth asked for clarification from Mr. Parsons on the back lots. Mr. Koeth asked if the back lots are being used for auto storage, or if they are part of the showroom. Mr. Koeth indicated that Mr. Parsons had said people can walk back through there and asked if this was accurate. 1VIr. Parsons said it is basically storage, it's not merchandising area, but it is an area where people walk,through to view cars. Mr. Lasko asked if it's storage for new vehicles that are in inventory, being held in inventory for sale if someone coines in. Mr. Parsons said that is right. Mr. Spalding inquired as to whether a salesman would have to accompany a person back there. Mr. Parsons said a person would not have to be escorted, it's like any dealership. There is a main merchandising area where your cars are and other cars are stored in other areas where you can walk around. Mr. Koeth said that is not part of what the variances called for. That was supposed to be just auto storage, not a showroom. Mr. Parsons indicated it's not being merchandised, it's a storage area where people have the ability to look at a car. Mr. Spalding said he had a question about spillage onto Lorain. He has not compared this site to other auto dealerships but there seems to be quite a bit of light coming out onto Lorain Road. He wonders whether or not that glare or potential glare for drivers may be extreme. He thinks the lot is much closer to where the cars are going to be than other dealerships where they are further back. He questioned if this dealership is much closer. Mr. 1'arsons said he is not very familiar with the west side, but he saw dealerships on Lorain and what he viewed was they are essentially the same, they are not set back a lot further. Mr. Spalding said he would like to checlc that out because it seems awfully close and he is concerned about that spillage onto Lorain. Mr. Koeth asked for questions about landscaping. Mr. Asseff asked if the landscaping is irrigated. Mr. Farrell said it is not irrigated and the reason is because originally when the plans were calling for a 75' set back, there were calls for irrigation. The Board of Zoning Appeals granted a variance; they don't have that set back any longer. Their green space consists of evergreens and shrubs that are very hearty. He has a letter from the landscaper who indicated it is not necessary for irrigation to maintain those plants. He said with respect to the mound area, it is not going to be grass. It will be a wood chip base on the entire inound so there is no need to be watering that. Mr. Rymarczyk said it is required by the zoning code to have irrigation, irrigation for any landscaped areas whether it is trees, grass, flower. Mr. Spalding asked if they reviewed the memo from the city forester as to his recommendation. Mr. Farrell said he had not seen that meino. Mr. Spalding indicated the forester had about five recoininendations. Mr. Rymarczyk said the recommendations were not in regard to irrigation but rather to plantings. Mr. Farrell was given a copy of the memo. Mr. Koeth informed the board members they might have to stop at 8:30 because there is a brief council meeting, which may require they take a recess. Mr. Koeth asked for audience comments or questions. Mr. Robert Hebebrand of 5181 Dewey Road came forward and said he did not understand all the numbers. Mr. Koeth asked Mr. Farrell to turn the chart and informed the other residents they are welcome to coine up to take a look. Mr. Farrell then explained the lighting to the residents and answered some of their questions. The board conferred while Mr. Farrell talked with the residents. Mr. Koeth asked for questions from the audience and said they are pressed for time because Council has a special meeting at 8:30 so he'd like to get to a point where they either recess and then come back, or hopefully wrap things up before 8:30. Mr. Hebebrand said he would like a wall about 6' high instead of dirt mounds. It would give them more parking and it would look better. Mr. O'Malley, Assistant Law Director, informed the board that Council is not ready to move into chambers so there may be more time before determining whether to recess or continue. Sarah Shimmelfane of 5120 Dewey Road, formerly of 5212 Dewey, said at one of the last meetings that she attended they addressed the engineering problems. Now being a resident at the dead end of the street, she is very concerned about the water run off and believes there was going to be soinething addressed with engineering about where the water would go now that all this paving would be done. She did not 6