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that out front, taking a twist from Jared Jewelers, they are bringing in some of the planting materials from the out parcels and the Galyan's. Ms. Schulz asked if there will just be parking on the proposed out parcels for the time being. Mr. Kobe said it will stay a parking area until such time as they have a tenant with interest in the two out lots. Ms. Schulz asked if that is when they will put in the new islands. Mr. Kobe indicated that is correct. Mr. Burrier referred to the area adjacent to Brookpark where there is a rise in elevation a few feet, and there is the sidewalk and then the parking lot. There are existing maples there and they will do a simple planting bed with ornamental grasses, day lilies, and barberry of a burgundy color, which works well with the brick. They have a range of colors and movement. Ms. Schulz asked if the Brookpark strip will be done when they do Galyan's or when the other out lots are done. Mr. Kobe said it will be done as part of Galyan's. Mr. Conway asked what exactly they are pulling from Jared's. Mr. Burrier said it is out on the strip in between the parking and Brookpark Road. Mr. Conway pointed out that the Board of Zoning and Development was not satisfied with Jared's. The board's comment to them was when looking off Brookpark, there is a sea of asphalt. They are looking for something to break that visual. He said the Board of Zoning and Development will be looking for something in front of Jared's and across the Brookpark entrance to alleviate that situation. Mr. McIntosh said he thought they liked the landscaping on Brookpark. Mr. Conway said they were happy with the front of the store but going on down they wanted more and they want to see that with this proposed site. Mr. Newbury said that Jared's situation is that their lease is confined to the west end of the parking lot. Mr. Burrier said the planting module that they have between the maples can be accommodating. It can be extended. Mr. Yager said when he looks at the planting along Brookpark Road, in an individual module it looks nice. He asked if they would want to create some mounds or inlets, or something that allows the eye to break from standardization, if they start to spread that out. He said even if it is nice and elegant standardization, it is still regiment. Mr. Burrier said they like to and on occasion get elevation changes. They have existing maples now and they could get extra dirt, even from the Galyan's construction, and do mounding. They have a slight slope and sidewalk toward Brookpark so they already have an elevation change. The plant material is all going to be in the 3-51/2 foot range so there will be relief there. Mr. Conway asked if they have approval from O.D.O.T. because all the plantings are in the right of way. Mr. Burrier said they have not approached O.D.O.T. yet. Ms. Schulz said she believes they can do mounding with their plantings. They can vary the plantings and grasses to give breaks at critical points, and she would suggest that for the out parcels. Mr. Yager said one of the most awkward areas in the shopping plaza is at the entrance leading from the mall and out to Office Max. He said there is not enough cueing for any more than just a few cars there and looking on the south side, it has a similar scenario but a lot more cueing. He said if they are adding the out buildings, they might consider this an appropriate time to work on that. They own the mall and know how difficult it is with incoming traffic not stopping and stop signs at awkward locations. He said he loves the idea of all the out buildings even though he is entertained that some time ago someone came to the board and told them the proper parking ratio with the buildings. There are more out buildings since then. He is ok with it because there are only a couple of times a year where it is an issue. He said the more out buildings, the more exciting it is, the more people show up here and the more they buy. He added that they are coming in with nice little buildings aesthetically. It brings value to the site, which is a benefit to them as members of the city. Ms. Schulz agreed and said the entrance and exit issues need to be addressed at some point. As retailers, they know the value of making it easy for people to get in and out. Mr. Labus, from Galyan's, presented the lighting program. He said they typically use a parapet mounted light that will go just over the fagade of the building. He handed out a color rendering of the exterior of the building at night. They use a blue light that up-lights the underside of the barrel vault, which is very dynamic at night. He said they have additional lights around the stone piers and tapered steel columns. Mr. Newbury said in terms of site lighting they are planning to mimic what is out there now. They are not adding any intensity and are maintaining the separation from the property line so they are not spilling anything out on Brookpark. Mr. Yager said he wonders if the exterior lighting will be strong enough to carry all the canopies. Mr. Labus said they now have upgraded their lighting and one of the reasons they went with the E.F.I.S. and the recess is to get a more three-dimensional building. He said they found that the recess sort of disappears at night so the lights weren't bright enough. The combination of the lighter