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Mr. O'Malley complemented the applicant for trying to come up with something more consistent <br />with mix use. However, this preliminary land use plan tonight does not strictly comply with code. <br />He advised that it was not yet time to analyze strict compliance to the code i.e. variances that may or <br />may not be needed relating to the size of the building, or mixture of use. Matter of fact a lot of detail <br />that could be envisioned as far as final development plans and meeting codes the building <br />department has not looked at yet. All Planning Commission is looking at, now, is the conceptual <br />plan, basic layout, and configuration of the external roads, the curb cuts, and the mix of uses. The <br />commission is not at the point were variances are being granted, the site plan before the board shows <br />the foot prints which are in fact showing buildings that do not comply to code. One of the buildings <br />exceeds the maximum square footage for a super store. This plan also exceeds the technical <br />application of the mix use district by having a single building which exceeds more than 10% of the <br />build-able area for the site. Furthermore, the applicant is showing a 70% 30% mix instead of a 50% <br />50% mix. So there is progress but it is not in full compliance to the code. If the Planning <br />Commission is contemplating an approval, the approval should be conditioned upon a clear <br />indication, specifically on the plan itsel£ A disclaimer if you will, to make it clear that the approval <br />of this preliminary land use plan is just that, a preliminary land use plan and no indication of <br />issuance of variances or approving any violations of the code. He would recommend that Planning <br />Coinmission reserve judgement on any traffic study or traffic consequences that might come up. <br />The Planning Commission could in theory condition the approval of the preliminary land use plans <br />on the traffic studies. It is also within the Commissions authority to address and make <br />recommendations to other conditions or changes in the preliminary land use plan if necessary to <br />accommodate the boards concerns. There are a number of issues the board can address i.e. loading <br />docks, contours and configurations of the building to eliminate the massing that the developers made <br />reference too. For example, the loading docks can be a condition imposed on the approval. The <br />approval of the preliminary land use plans is not to be taken as a final approval of the location of the <br />loading docks. The commission is still free to address those types of details to the extent that this <br />shows the loading dock in a specific location is not binding. There are not a lot of guarantees in the <br />preliminary land use plans by either side. The Commission does not have a guarantee that it is going <br />to look the way the applicants are showing it nor, is the commission guaranteed that there is going to <br />be a Target or any other store. The applicant does not have a guarantee that what he is showing the <br />coinmission is absolutely entitled to be approved. <br />Audience Comments and Concerns: <br />Mr. Skoulis the president of the Park West homeowners association which abuts parcel-E came <br />forward to address the preliminary land use plans. Mr. Skoulis indicated that they had an <br />opportunity to speak with Mr. Berryhill and Targets representative in the outer lobby and were quite <br />pleased as to what they were told. He has had a chance to pole some of the residents present so he <br />knows how they feel about the proposal. Some of them object to it, but like the concept and the <br />architectural appearance. He likes the concept and they have come a long way from what they first <br />proposed, they are on the right track. He has a few concerns regarding the buffering and landscaping <br />but will address the big store concept. He likes the Target store architecturally, but the problem is <br />that it is still a big box store. The fact that they put two walls between the building does not change <br />that it is still one store. They can compromise on that point if they want to compromise. His <br />concerns regarding the big box store and other area is the amount of retail, it exceeds the amount of <br />retail that is allowed in the Mix Use D district. If this is approved will it be setting a precedence for <br />any piece of land zoned Mix Use D. He likes the concept and would like to see go though. He thinks <br />the rest of the residents will like it as well. He has requested that Carnegie Management and Target <br />representatives meet with all their residents so they can see the plan. He suggested that Carnegie <br />agreed to the meeting. They would like to come to some type of agreement before the commission <br />gives a final decision. That would allow the residents an opportunity to come before the board and <br />state any objections. As far as the Target Store, it is a large store with a wall in the center, but it is <br />still one building. He would like to know what would be between the two buildings. He suggested <br />13
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