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. _a 0 <br />discussed moving this information. He noted, it was the position of the law department as well as <br />his own that Extra Credit criteria should be in a rule all by itself. Osterhouse noted, the basis for <br />his recommendation was that the "Tie Score Promotional" section on page 10 appears out of <br />place. Wilamosky confirmed this was discussed, but everything was basically placed on subject <br />matter. This was discussed in detail, and Mr. Wilamosky agreed to move this section under Rule <br />III. Chief Osterhouse suggested moving Section 5 of rule IV (page 10) to a new section 8 (page <br />8) of Rule III. Mr. Wilamosky believed anything that deals with promotional can be inserted into <br />the promotional section of the suggestions. This means there will be the following new sections <br />under Rule III: Section 7 titled "Efficiency and Seniority Credit - Promotional Examinations" <br />(moved from page 11 and 12) and a Section 8 titled "Tie Score Promotional" (moved from page <br />10). Mr. Wilamosky agreed to set this up. <br />Section 4-e on page 12 was discussed. Chief Viola advised the Police Department has changed <br />their rating system. Personnel Director Wilamosky wondered if this was in the June 17, 1996 <br />rules. He was advised this was present in those regulations. It was noted, the current Police <br />Department Rating Scale appears on page 20 of the suggestions workbook (dated June 17, 1996), <br />Mr. Wilamosky agreed to change the rating scale for police in his document accordingly. It was <br />pointed out that the Fire Department Rating Scale is also different. Wilamosky was concerned <br />because this is a Promotional issue which is subject to collective bargaining. He did not want to <br />change this rule for fear that the union will file a failure to negotiate. The Commission agreed not <br />to make any changes in this area at this time. <br />The remainder of these suggestions will be discussed at a future meeting. <br />Chairman Cummings wondered how the administration feels about changing the number of people <br />certified for an opening. Mr. Wilamosky explained the commission has historically certified three <br />names. He advised the police department performs a background check on approximately ten <br />names to weed out those individuals that do not pass the background check. Chief Viola <br />interrupted citing they only receive three names to review for an opening. He advised that the <br />police department does not review beyond what is certified to them by the commission. Personnel <br />Director Wilamosky recalled the police department requesting that the commission provide twenty <br />names. Chief Viola noted the only thing they requested was a copy of the eligibility list, and no <br />background checks have ever been done unless the commission certifies three names. Chairman <br />Cummings noted the argument for receiving five names was that the person ranked fourth or fifth <br />on the list may have far more superior skills than the top three. Chief Osterhouse advised there <br />have been times when his department has been forced to accept the lesser of the three evils. <br />Personnel Director Wilamosky thought that if everything is balanced the departments would <br />employ people based on their test score. The Chiefs agreed if everything is balanced this is true, <br />however it rarely ever balances. Chief Viola argued the state has provisions under 124.27 of the <br />O.RC., where they have changed the number of names supplied for an opening. He elaborated the <br />State has expanded the number of names to ten for a given opening. It was noted that Lakewood <br />has upgraded to ten and Westlake to six. Chief Viola wondered why the city would restrict <br />themselves to three when the state expanded the requirement to ten. Personnel Director <br />Wilamosky advised the Law Department did not believe a change was necessary in this area. He <br />noted the main concern was nepotism. The Chief advised the commission can check up on this to <br />insure everyone is treated fairly. Director Wilamosky believed if someone other than the candidate <br />ranked first on the list is chosen, the commission should request an explanation for that decision. <br />Chief Osterhouse wondered if such explanation would have to be detailed. Chief Viola believed a <br />brief explanation, such as a certain candidate is better qualified would be sufficient. Wilamosky <br />8 <br />