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Department, and Police Department please see correspondences attached to these minutes. Mr. Cummings suggested this issue has come up in the past, and we feel it should be addressed in our Civil Service handbook. Mr. Cummings asked the clerk if she had received any response from the union representatives that were contacted. The clerk stated that both Mr. James Miller, and Mr. Tim Calvitti were sent memo's requesting their opinions, but she had not receive a response from either representative. The clerk noted that on June 12, 1998 she received a carbon copy of an E -Mail that Mr. Jenkins sent to both Mr. Miller and Mr. Calvitti reminding them that their opinion on seniority points, needed to be submitted in writing to the Civil Service office no later then June 15, 1998, by 4:00 p.m., or they could attend that nights meeting and voice their opinion in person. Mr. Cummings suggested he interpreted Mr. Ruples letter to read that he was not for the seniority points, and that Mr. Osterhouse's letter reads 'as though he is in favor of the points, but only for full-time personal. Mr. Cummings asked Assistant Chief Smith what the difference between a full-time position and a part-time or volunteer position would be. Mr. Smith suggested the difference would be full-time employees have more experience ie. working the shifts, doing inspections, and taking on more responsibilities. Assistant Chief Smith suggested their office interpreted the law departments letter to be saying carrying over seniority points from one Civil Service potion to another is already allowed. Mr. Cummings agreed with Assistant Chief Smith that the Ohio Civil Service & collective Bargaining Laws & Rules book states that any Civil Service position should be allowed the right to carry their seniority points from one Civil Service position to the next, whether they are the same jobs or not. However if we address this issue in our Civil Service handbook then we can choose if seniority points from other departments will or will not be allowed. Mr. Smith suggested it could cause friction among the employees. Mr. Cummings asked Safety Director Jenkins his opinion. Mr. Jenkins suggested the Civil Service office could contact surrounding Civil Service offices to see how they address seniority points being carried over from other jobs. There are always pro's and cons to every issue, and some of the pro's are that you could get some very talented people from other locations, but there are some liabilities with that also, such as why are they leaving their department is a question that always comes up. The question was asked if an individual from another department comes to North Olmsted would they keep their rank from their last department. Assistant Chief Smith suggested the only candidates that transfer are officers, if they are ranked as a sergeant or higher they usually don't leave their departments. Mr. Thomay asked if candidates transfer from one department to another frequently. Mr. Smith suggested that in past practice it was unusual, but more and more we are starting to see it. At one time the union wanted to allow personal to transfer from one department to another without taking a test. Mr. Smith suggested this wouldn't work because the new employee would know nothing about our City, and it takes time to learn every street in the North Ohnsted. Mr. Cummings stated we will not be voting on this now, we would like to research this issue more before making a ruling. Mr. Cummings requested the clerk speak with the Law Department and Safety Department with regards to the actual wording that would be placed in the book. Whether we allow the seniority points or not. E. Cummings motioned to table the issue of the seniority points until the next regular scheduled meeting. The motion was seconded by L. Zolar, and unanimously approved. A memo from Personal Director, Jan Popa that was received on June 15, 1998 was addressed. The memo was read aloud by the clerk. Mr. Cummings suggested the board needed to know. what the job requirements are for the City's secretarial positions, i.e. the typing requirements, computer skills required, and other clerical requirements. We need a job