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I would tell you that the matter is before you based upon the evidence on the record, the testimony, the documents. It's by a standard which is known as preponderance of the evidence. You should rely on substantial, reliable, probative evidence on the record. Preponderance is a standard not like beyond a reasonable doubt which is the kind of thing that you would rely on and the most important of your own personal affairs. Preponderance is more like the greater weight of the authority. So the burden is on the appellant to demonstrate to you that the decision is unreasonable, unlawfiil, unconstitution by preponderance of the evidence. That's the standard by which your decision would be judged in a court of law if it was illegal, arbitrary, capricious, unreasonable or unsupported by a preponderance of the evidence. That's why I say that you would look to say whether your determination on that standard would be j udged on this record. That's all I have unless you care for more advice. I'm inclined to give you advice more on the procedure but I'm at your disposal. Commissioner Flannery: Well, thank you. Asst. Law Director O'Malley: Thank you, Madam Chair. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, so the proceedings are closed. You have the records that were in your packet. You have the PowerPoint that was submitted by the applicant. Commissioner Flannery: So... going forward Asst. Lav Director O'Malley: So what's your pledge? You want to deliberate with your fellow member on the record. Talk about what's before you and what your decision may be. You want to take it under advisement and ask for a decision to be written for your review. As I said at the outset, I'm not a real big fan of deliberating in private which is your right. And the reason being that it never fails. You deliberate in private and you hear all this meaningful discussion of what the evidence showed or didn't show and you have all this great discussion in a private deliberation then you go back on the record and everybody gets real quiet. You don't hear ally of it. If your reasoning is sound and your analysis is true it needs to be on the record. So it'll appear in a transcript if somebody's ever reviewing it. Commissioner Flannery: That's disgusting. Captain Angel Walling: You can have this seat if you like. Commissioner Flannery: You're fine.