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It's the applicant against the test results, so to speak. The other party, Angel Walling, is here, because she has a stake in it and an interest in it. And she likewise might want to be heard. So its the applicant's show, so to speak. He wants to ask for witnesses to be separated. Members of PRADCO, the Commission's Testing Authority, are here and expect to be called to testify, whether it's on cross-examination or direct. And for sake of brevity, the manner in which testimony is elicited may be simply people invited to speak, whatever it is that they're trying to say. As opposed to being examined on direct. We don't want the applicant to ask questions of himself and answer in the third person. He can just state his position. And likewise, the members of PRADCO might just want to address the commissioners on the evidence and on the issue presented. There should be records. Any documents that are part of the commission's packet that are before you, assuming there's no objection, they'll be separated and marked as exhibits. If there are any other documents presented, a copy has to be maintained by the clerk and ideally shared with other parties as they're addressed. You can take a closing argument. Procedurally, you could, if you chose to, take this matter under advisement. You could ask for findings of fact and conclusions of law to be drafted for your review and approval at a later date. You could go into executive session to deliberate and to seek legal counsel on matters presented. It's generally not my habit to recommend that you deliberate in private off the record. The reason being that whatever it is that you want to say about your observations or about what you believe the evidence is showing, it's much, much better to have those on the record, not in a private conversation. But if there's something that is troubling that you seek confidential advice on, you're entitled to go into executive session. You could make your ruling on the spot tonight or you could, like I say, defer. Is there any questions about the procedure or the order of proceedings? Commissioner Flannery: No, no I don't think so. Asst. Lav Director O'Malley: People should not necessarily talk as loudly as I do, but you might want to keep your voice up so that the recording devices are capturing the testimony. And again, you're going to control the floor. You're going to grant the floor. People that want to be heard are going to have to ask to be recognized and not speak until they've been recognized. Commissioner Flannery: All right, so we are going to start with Mr. Barrett, as he's the one who requested the protest. Lieutenant Barrett: Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to pass these out for right now, but we'll get to them here shortly. First of all, I'd like to thank the committee for meeting and hearing me out on this matter. Thank you, PRADCO, for coming up as well. Thank you to Captain Angel Walling for being here. I want to make it clear that this appeal is not about Captain Walling. She is a colleague and a friend of mine. This appeal is about the inequity of the PRADCO assessment and the subjectivity of the assessor. I'll give you a little background on this.