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No, no, no. You're misunderstanding her. She was talking about the second part of the testing where we went through an oral assessment with the chiefs of police, three chiefs of police. That's what she's talking about. I don't know what question she didn't answer. She never got into that detail. Just said that there's a question she didn't answer., she didn't know how to answer, and left it blank. And that's it. And listen, if there's no penalty for not answering the questions that we're required to do, then I should be able to just pick -and choose whatever question I feel like answering and not answering that. If that's going to be the case with PRADCO, if there's no risk involved with not answering questions, then why are we bothering taking them? Asst. Law Director O'Malley: You've answered my question. Thank you. Lieutenant Barrett: Thank you. Commissioner Flannery: Thank you. And we have a gentleman here from PRADCO, so... Dr. Borodkin: Sure. Would you like to sit at the table or back here? Asst. Law Director O'Malley: You can come to the table if you'd like. Dr. Borodkin: Thank you. All right, just for the record, Dr. Larry Borodkin, senior vice president of PRADCO, been with the organization for 29 years. And I run the operation that involves all safety forces, all levels of testing, and coaching. In terms of what was presented, I j List really want to present some of the key facts. Number one, I am very glad you listened to the coaching and got promoted to the lieutenant's position, so I'm very happy about that. But I wonder, the testing is correct when you get promoted, but then when that does not occur, now it's subjective. So that becomes an issue to me. But even beyond that, the number one thing to me is that before we do any assessment for any position, we work with the city to determine the most critical behaviors. They were different for captain and lieutenant. So someone could be a top scorer on a lieutenant's position, but not a top scorer on a captain's position. I would basically say, if you look at boxing, I weigh 160 pounds, I'm a perfect welterweight. I'm 160 pounds, I fail at being a heavyweight. So it's like comparing apples and oranges, and that becomes an issue. Number one, we're just talking about different standards for the two jobs, because I think we would all agree that the roles are different. According to the city and the behaviors picked, there were 6 out of 16 different behaviors, so it's not the same type of benchmark. So I would put that out there first. Also, a point was brought up about not answering a question. That happens all the time, because there are probably altogether 80 data points.