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Council Minutes of 3-15-77 -9' on it which woul~? not change it any basically' other than the fact that if the 3 mill levy doesn't pass we are going to have :.c. come b~.ck to the table and do some thinking. Mr. Beaty stated he personally gives the voters more credit for being smaxt than he guesses Mr. Fairfield does; but thinks it is very important that. we do leave this in case the millage is defeated we would have some method at hand in order to negotiate and work out some way to pay for the use as we ga. Mr. Fairfield asked Law Director Gareau if the legislation could be amended to take out the $11.92 'Law Director Gareau stated he is sure Mr. Fairfield is aware right now we have a $7.45 rate so if you take out the $11.92 - in esseaee this piece of legislation is worthless because we already have it now - so to do what Mr. Fairfield wants to do - you would not have to amend it - all you would have to do is defeat it. Mr. Fairfield moved that Ord. No. 77-41 be voted dower because it isn't anything new - we have the $7.45 - if the 3 mill levy is passed it is there. Mr. bleat stated that is not exactly right: We do have Ord. No. 77-2 which raised the rates by 60x even though there is a referendum. This ordinance does away with that and states if the people vote for the 3 mills then the $11.92 does not apply; and if it does not pass then it is $11.92 aad we go fmm there. Thinks that part of it is very important and necessary to make this legislation a meaningful piece of legislation. Mr. Wilamosky stated he would like to give comments as long as there is discussion on Ord. No. 77-41 and what its intent is: He has also talked to people about a flat fee in conjunction with the Charter Amendment and has been told by many people that in their opinion it is an attempt some~rhat to intiatidate or an attempt to blackmail the people into supporting the Charter Amendment. Mr. Wilamosky said he personally heartily supports the Charter Amendment and has from its conception and it was originally discussed an3 introduced with a basis of a flat fee. He encouraged the adoption of the Charter Amendment and thinks it is the first step in correcting and ad~ustiag the rate structure which the people have been discontent with €or years. Feels it is of the utaQOSt importance that every Member of Council and every member in the audience support the adoption of the Charter Amenctmsnt. Mr. Wilamosky stated he does mot support the 60X increase as introduced by she Mayor originally nor does he setgpart the threat of the 60X increase as im~ped in Ord. No. 77-41. Does not believe Ord. 77-41 is giving the people anything new as Mr. Fairfield has indicated - it is not giving them an alternative - what it is giving them in a sense is an ultimatum and Mr. W1lamosky does not agree. Further, he believes that we should do what is best for the whole City - not for people sitting at this table or the A,~lministration. Thinks we should consider first of all what is the makeup of the City - w~.thout the people we would not have a City - and thinks our first obligation is to the people. Mr. west stated he takes the apposite view: Nave beard many people say they would Iike to know what the alternate is if the 3 mills is not passed: they do mart feel like it is blackmail: they feel you have spelled it out to thin and the people know exactly what it is. Mir. West stated he thinks our problem with the flat rate before when we put the 3 mills on - all we did was talk about a flat rate and did not tie it in with the 3 mills ~d a lot of people thought that if they passed the 3 mills there would not be any fXst rate or if they had a flat rate they did not have to have any millage. Mr. test stated he had to tell them time and time again that this has been very misleading - that in order to have $85. you have to have the 3 mills; if they dont have $85. they have got to have a higher rate and it has never been spelled out far them: they are saying this is misleading and it is hiding things under the table ~d they do not like it; whereas in this ordinance they know that if the 3 mill levy passes what the rate is going to be anal if the 3 mills doesn't pass they know what the rate is going to be. Mr. Wilamosky stated in relationship to the fiat fee ordinance he wants to emphasize his opinion and the efforts he put forth with the flat fee and the overall combination of flat fee and Charter Amendment: it was very clear and MpINC1iR.'~m1'WA+~~«rti M-~:':,~ ~ 4riYlti «F?~:•i..;t,N'. i ..