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Council Minutes of 8/20/2002 3. He questioned how speed limits are established for residential streets. Walter Road is a 35 mph zone, and Maple Ridge is a 25 mph zone. He doesn't see any difference why one should be 35 and one 25. Law Director Dubelko said he could give a general answer in that it depends on how the street is classified. A through street permits a higher speed limit. If it is not a through street, it's a standard 25 mph. Mr. Pangrac said it doesn't make sense to him that Canterbury Road is 25 mph and Dover Center is 35 mph. To him, the streets look a lot alike. Law Director Dubelko said they look alike to him also, but there are definitions under the state code as to what a through street is to justify a higher speed limit. Mr. Pangrac asked if that could be reviewed to see if changes could be made. Law Director Dubelko recommended that Mr. Pangrac contact Traffic Engineer Crriffith. Mr. Limpert commented, with regard to transfers to the Wastewater Treatment Plant, that it does have an affect but believes it will have less of an affect than not doing it. For example, the centrifuge at the plant cost several hundred thousand dollars but it saved several million dollars of what it would cost to replace outdated technology that was wearing out with the same outdated technology. Transfer of another employee (fourth employee) down to work on ditches would be helpful because, when ditches do not flow properly, there is a major adverse affect on the sanitary sewer system. We have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past year trying to seal up the sanitary sewers with grouting and other techniques to prevent the infiltration which caused the consent decree. It was very effective to get rid of the storm water problem so the water would flow and not infiltrate into the sanitary sewers. It is a cost to the sanitary system, but it is a lesser cost than what would happen if the flow problems are not remedied. Mr. Gareau said he and Mr. Pangrac had discussed the 2001 Cleveland Water Quality Report. He inquired of Cleveland as to the cost of the literature, which was $134,172.72. With regard to Mr. Limpert's comments, Mr. Pangrac asked if a cost benefit analysis was done of the employees who were transferred to the treatment plant. Mr. Limpert said, from previous experience of what it had cost for the other solutions-such as the groutings and things like that in his opinion it does seem to be advantageous. We do not have a crystal ball to say there will be "72 breaks in the grouting which will require x amount of dollars per break to repair." The basic thing is, if we get rid of the pressurization from the outside of the sewers, it will prevent the infiltration problem which got us in the consent decree to begin with. There is not a formal sheet of paper where every dollar is worked out. In his mind, it's going to be a savings. As to the idea of potentially putting the sewer rates on taxes as opposed to part of the water bill, that is included in the five-year plan submitted to the Mayor from Vision 2000. Bob Erich, 4741 Bailey Road, spoke about the layoff of the school guards and the auxiliary police. He said most of them have not even been notified. They have been waiting all summer to come back to work. There are real dangerous areas, especially at Burns and Butternut, with the high school students driving to school. His wife works in that area and has almost been hit three or four times. Somebody has got to guard there. Why weren't the school guards notified? They could have been out looking for a job all summer. The money is being collected for the library, and he doesn't see any money 10