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Council Minutes of 6/3/2008 any other odor emitting establishment in the city who will have a more efficient system that removes odors or volatile organic chemicals from the air. He feels that this is the best that can be offered with the latest technology offered today. They are replacing two spray booths and three prep stations. One booth at a time will be replaced so as not to have to shut down the operation altogether. The old system had one stage of filtration, the new system has five stages, three in the booth and two more on the roof. There is odor control on the roof and VOC (volatile organic compounds) filtration on the roof and will stop automatically if any VOC's come out. This type of system is primarily used by the aircraft industry for heavy chromate paint. Councilwoman Jones asked the question why another two years? The short answer is, to justify the $350,000+ expense, Suburban wanted to have the time so that they were sure and so was the city before a permanent conditional permit would be issued. Mr. Panza said that he hopes it doesn't take the full two years. He would like to get this completed as soon as possible so that everyone can move on. It was also asked of the Law Director about the odor nuisance problem and where did that stand now. It was suggested that this was a different subject and that the committee discussion was about the extension of the temporary conditional use permit. The nuisance is in litigation and should not be discussed at that time. Mr. Papotto said that for the past 2-1/z years he has done everything he felt possible to alleviate the odor problem. He spent a lot of money with filters, automatic door closing systems, and additional filters and to no avail as the problem was not solved. He acknowledges that this new system is needed and is willing to spend the $ 362,400 and hopefully to have the problem go away. He feels that this expense will do it, and that is why he would like to have an additional two years to finally put this problem to rest. Councilman Mahoney asked what if we don't agree to give the extension? The recourse would be to go to court and the other is mediation. If the temporary permit is not granted, then court is the answer and neither side wants to go through that process. If the install takes about a year, how long would they wait to ask for the permanent permit? The answer was it depends on testing and then presentation of the tests and see what happens. The city would possibly want to wait and see if there are any complaints. The permanent conditional use permit would be issued through the Building Dept. and would not have to come before Council again. Residents who were in attendance commented and the question about the nuisance ordinance was again brought up. It was again stated that stated that they are two separate issues, and the nuisance ordinance is being enforced. A question of noise of the new fans was brought up, and it was stated that the new fans are indeed quieter than the present ones. Also a resident and Mr. Orlowski inquired about an incineration system. It was stated that the cost to run that type of system would be prohibitive and that this system from Garmat will do the job. It was also suggested that there are three ways to rectify this problem: courts, mediation or make them move back to Dover Center Rd. Councilman Gateau asked the question if there any systems like this in use in the area? The answer was none on the east coast but probably one in California. This type of system is mainly for industrial use. In California, the system quite possibly would be a three-stage system not the five-stage system being installed here. Mr. Gateau felt there are three options that Council has, one is to not extend the temporary permit and go to court. If we would. go to court, it could take up to at least three years for a decision to be made and possibly nothing solved and the court would make the decision. Second, we could extend with no assurance that the odor would go away. At least Suburban is being 8 r ~. .u~.~,;~.~.